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Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by coolerdave, Jul 11, 2011.
That's what I do and it seems to work fine. I don't think you will damage the horn.
Good point. I know a player who prefers to use the 1st slide instead of 3rd.
Practice slowly and the rest doesn't matter. The fingers are strong enough to fight the compression when playing. If you wait until the valve is pushed down, you are probably too late for playing.
I was going to ask why the first valve slide wasn't used as much. I really feel more comfortable using that one instead of the third valve. I just thought that there was a reason it wasn't. I think I like it because my fingers are pretty thin and I have alot of play in the third valve ring... it's actually irritating.
thanks guys ... I definitely won't be drilling any holes in my Bach though.. I already leak enough air at my embrouchure
I don't use it (instead of the 3rd slide) because some of my horns don't have a 1st valve saddle. I'd rather just keep the technique the same for all my horns. Of course, my Civil War cornet and my flugel don't have any intonation aids available other than lipping and alternate fingerings, but that's another topic.
I am pretty sure the only players that have this issue are the Strad type horns with the free dump slide. The compression is not the issue, but the popping out of the free dump slide at the end of the 3rd slide. I have a Strad with the same issue. A heavier slide grease helps. It is a pain as my horn has great compression, and the slide will pop about half way out on one of my horns, so if you use it a couple of times it can pop off.
Good question Dave.
The 3rd Valve dump slide I really see as an issue with the Strad, and it has an option of a water key if you want it. Really do not understand why they are not standard. (This has been asked on a few threads - a lot of players just do not use the free slide, so it freezes up...and some guys that have a Strad did not even know the free slide was there)
Cheers (from a sad Strad owner with 3rd slide free dump slide issues)
It does sound so much better with a mute.
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The dump slide on my Strad trumpet is now stuck solid. Before it was stuck (but always hard to remove) I had a water key added, which I like better, anyway. The dump slide on my Strad cornet scrapes the bell when you remove it, so I had a water key added, which, again, I like better. With any luck, it will soon be stuck solid, too.
Pulling out the Bach "dump slide" (not all the way, of course!) allows us to play the low concert Eb.
that's cool but not if you are trying to play a low F#