3rd vavle slide

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  1. Ness

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    Hey guys. I'm having some minor issues with my 3rd valve slide- it comes out VERY easily. This is nice when playing a bunch of low Ds, C#, etc where pulling out helps with tuning. This can present a problem however when your left hand is unavailable (like when using a plunger). How would you recommend dealing with this? I can lip it to put it back in tune, but that changes the tone slightly and makes some stuff harder to play.
     
  2. nieuwguyski

    nieuwguyski Forte User

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    That's a problem I've experienced, being the guy who gets the plunger features in several big bands ("Blues in Hoss' Flat," anyone?). Here are some solutions I have experience with, in order of increasing expense:

    1. Hook a hair scrunchy over the third-slide ring, stretch it back and hook it over the bottom of the third valve (downside: you have a hair scrunchy on your horn).
    2. Buy some black elastic cord at a fabric store and make a perfectly sized, fairly subtle elastic loop between the braces of the third slide (downside: you look like you have Monette-envy).
    3. Buy a bent mouthpiece and concentrate on pointing the bell up when you're using the plunger (okay, adopting a bent mouthpiece had nothing to do with plunger playing, but it did help).
    4. Have a third-slide trigger installed on your trumpet (again, I didn't have this done for plunger playing, but it totally solves the problem).
    5. Buy an Olds Recording, which already has the third-slide trigger.
     
  3. gmonady

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    Nieuwguyski's option 5 is a win-win situation. That is the one I would recommend.
     
  4. turtlejimmy

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    Hahaha .... #4 isn't bad either ....

    I had a technician tell me once that he thought most trumpets would benefit from more stability in this area (around the 3rd slide, tuning slide area). A trigger will definitely solve it. Triggers stay closed like nobody's business. I had a Conn Director with a 3rd slide trigger that someone installed. It looked exactly the same as the one on the Recording, and worked just as well on the Director.

    Having a Recording come along with that trigger is even better, I agree.


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  5. codyb226

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    I think 2, 3, 4, and 5 are the best. I would do any of them. But I would do them in this order:
    5, 4, 3, and last, 2.
     
  6. turtlejimmy

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    There is still a very good looking Recording at CentexBrass ... just saying.:dontknow:


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  7. codyb226

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    And at Horntrader....
     
  8. edfitzvb

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    I had a Courtois trumpet that the slide would come off. I just took a large rubber band and looped it around the valve cluster and the third valve finger ring. It is unobtrusive (there are choices in rubber band colors) and CHEAP. The resistance was not a problem because it was minimal.
     
  9. tobylou8

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    IF the horn is silver, the rubber band idea is okay but be sure to not leave it on too long or it will react with the silver and turn it black and it can even eat through the silver.:-o

    I'm sure there is a scientific name for this process but I will leave that to the scientist on the forum of which I am not.
     
  10. turtlejimmy

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    I sent a 3rd slide flying across the room once (the Eastman) .... forgot to screw in the little set screw retainer. Yikes. If I had been onstage, it would have gone into the 7th row.:shock:

    BTW, that Recording at the HornTrader is a real stunner. Completely redone (valves too) by Dan Oberloh. That's a great one .... looks just like mine.:-)


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