Addressing Muscle Fatigue

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by Mark_Kindy, Feb 4, 2012.

  1. gmonady

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    Isn't that spelled: G-I-N?
     
  2. Vulgano Brother

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    A colleague from a neighboring village in Germany got a position in the Bamburg Symphonie , and he reported they take good 'ol Bayer aspirin and drink beer after a bunch of hard blowing. If the concert or rehearsal is lighter they just drink beer.
     
  3. gmonady

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    The Germans always did not how to dose their medications appropriately.
     
  4. kingtrumpet

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    you are a sick man --- aren't you a little young for dimentia???? ROFL ROFL ROFL
     
  5. Mark_Kindy

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    Everything's feeling better, thanks for the advice all. I think it also forced me to be more efficient too! Some good things are happening!
     
  6. gmonady

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    Not sure what you mean by dimentia? Di-mentia would mean having two minds. Are you suggesting I am too young for having two minds? At my age, I am not too young for anything... and I have half the mind to knock some common sense into you young whipper shapper!
     
  7. Vulgano Brother

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    May I suggest The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind by Julian Jaynes. It is all amout "dimentia." Doesn't deal with muscle fatigue although it makes my brain hurt if I spend too much time trying to puzzle the book out.
     
  8. coolerdave

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    When I use to play in a working Rock band , it was 4-5 nights a week 4-5 40 minute sets of high loud playing. I would still do the 4 hour a day practice routine ... so occasionally I would have sore chops but was always able to play the sets.
    I guess the question I have is what do players like Mark do when they don't have that type of playing schedule.
    Do you adjust your practice to build up these kinds of chops?
    Does a regular practice routine in and of itself help and it just takes time to build up the endurance and reduce the after effects?
     
  9. TrumpetMD

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    Or imbibing the wrong brand?:-)
     
  10. jengstrom

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    The suggestions for ibuprofin, aspirin, icing, and rest are all good. Here's an additional 2 cents:

    At 55, my chops (or any muscles for that matter) don't recover as fast as they used to, so I try to stave off as much damage as I can up front. If I know I have a heavy day the day after a smashfest, I make it a point to go home and (horror of horrors) play some more.

    All good:
    1. pedals
    2. low note bends
    3. 19/30 exercise (look that one up on that OTHER forum)
    4. 20 minute G (at ppp, if not pppp)
    5. ppp Clarkes
    6. James Thompson's Buzzing Basics, exercises 1-4 and 9

    The 20 minute G, in particular, done at ppp with almost no MP pressure, recenters my chops like nothing else. The others relax you and keep the blood circulating through your lips. Much of the time, doing this immediately after a hard play, playing for up to an hour with as little MP pressure as possible, enables me to play the next day quite fresh.

    -John
     

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