As some of you remember, awhile back, I posted asking about dent balls and removing dents and I received some excellent advice. I bought some of the recommend tools and I'm getting pretty good at removing dents in the the "crook" area and other areas that are the correct size for my dent balls to knock out. NOW, I'm interested in learning more about Bell Dents and Dents in the first 6 inches of the tubing after the bell (too big for my dent balls to work on) I know I will need some hammers, mandrels, burnishers, rollers, irons.... or some combination of them. Ferrees and Votaw Tools seems to be the easiest places for me to get these specialized tools. If you know of another place that us NON repair shop types can order from here in the states, let me know I've been looking in Ferreestoools catalog and once again scouring the net and various brass forums to see what others have said and suggested. Page 31 has many of the bell working Mandrels... My initial thought was I need Ferrees P71 Bell Flare Mandrel for Cornets and Trumpets but I have found some posts (on a trombone forum) that seemed to suggest that the Universal Bell Iron is used more (now that MAY just be a trombone thing... or maybe it's true of trumpets as well) Ferrees L5 Universal Bell Iron Page 32 has some universal Tapered mandrels.... Page 33 has the N91 tapered Mandrels So with that as a starting point... I'm asking all you guys that actually DO this sort of work, what do YOU use? I'm not looking to fix a totally crumpled bell, I want to straighten a bent bell rim and fix small to medium dents along the bell and the tubing following it to say where the pinky ring is on the lead pipe. If you can make some specific tool recommendations that I can start with (mandrels,hammers,burnishers,etc... ), that would be very cool. Remember, I don't plan on opening a shop, I really just want to learn how to do this.... I don't plant on working on anything of value at this point. I have some Olds Ambassador Trumpets/Cornets and a few other fixer uppers that are here just calling for me to do some work on them. I'm watching what I can on Youtube on HOW to do this type of work.... once I get the tools, I will probably start asking more about this.... As always thank all of you for your kind words and helpful input!