Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by Wade LeBosh, Apr 25, 2011.

  1. Wade LeBosh

    Wade LeBosh New Friend

    Apr 24, 2011
    Hey I posted this in the greetings page but I think I'll get more traffic here.

    I'm a jazz pianist and ex-hornist looking to start cornet. I have a 1930's blessing artist and I want to focus on developing a beautiful dark/full tone while I'm woodshedding this summer. I'm only interested in small jazz combo playing, I feel as a ex-hornist I probably won't be able to develop "screamin chops".

    My current cornet mpc is badly dinged and I def need a new one. I'm looking at the Dennis Wick #3 or #4. Any suggestions for getting that small combo sound? I have fairly large lips btw.

    Any suggestions about instructional books would be greatly appreciated too. I'm quite familiar with improvisation, I know my scales, voicings, some tunes etc but I need help getting to a point on cornet where I can express myself.
  2. reedy

    reedy Piano User

    Jul 31, 2009
    Wiltshire, UK
    1st things 1st is get the aurban, along with collins lip flexabilities and start working though the 1st few pages, find yourself a good teacher aswel, if you are just starting you may pick up some bad habits without a teacher to help you.

    for a mouthpiece anything will do really, go for something medium deep like a wick 3 or 4 which every feels best, and work on your sound from there.
  3. trumpetnick

    trumpetnick Fortissimo User

    Nov 16, 2005
    Vidin, Bulgaria
    I wouldn't be so eager on recommending collins book - it gets soon quite hard (high) - I would recommend clarke instead.
  4. amzi

    amzi Forte User

    Feb 18, 2010
    Northern California
    I wouldn't call a Wick 3 or 4 medium deep either. A 3B or 4B maybe, but certainly not a regular 3 or 4. No sense making your work more difficult than it has to be.
  5. Dave Hughes

    Dave Hughes Mezzo Forte User

    Oct 19, 2010
    Rochester, NY
    Hey, Wade, don't fret the "Screamin' Chops," but just for reference I know a few ex french-horn and baritone players that actually developed into exceptional trumpet lead players. I have fairly good range and am an ex french-horn and mellophone player.

    That said, even years after switching fully to trumpet, I've found that I still had some french-horn like preferences...And one of them is the Denis Wick mouthpiece, b/c of cup shape. Its a recurved cup, which is not completely a v-style cup, but is semi-conicle. If my experience is any reference, I think you'll like the Wicks.
  6. Wade LeBosh

    Wade LeBosh New Friend

    Apr 24, 2011
    Thanks so much guys. Got my hands on an Arban's book this morning and ordered clarke studies. I've just been messing around with pedal tones and long tones and I can see my range improving even from yesterday.

    Interesting to hear from a fellow ex-hornist. Eventually I wanna get a flugel because I absolutely LOVE the sound and it reminds me horn.

    Any method suggestions for improv? I am proficient improviser on piano but I feel like I'm learning to walk again on trumpet.
  7. reedy

    reedy Piano User

    Jul 31, 2009
    Wiltshire, UK
    patterns for jazz and the aebersold books will work wonders
  8. coolerdave

    coolerdave Utimate User

    Nov 7, 2009
    San Pedro

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