Air Leakage from Uneven Chops?

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  1. Jonesy08

    Jonesy08 New Friend

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    Hi everyone,
    I am a college trombone player who used to play trumpet and I am trying to pick it back up again. I have been trying to adjust to the smaller mouthpiece by doing basic exercises and lips slurs for about 2 weeks now, but I am having problems with air leakage. The air always leaks out of the left side of my chops. I noticed that the right side of my lips are thicker than my left side and the air never leaks out of the right side when I play. Is there a way to fix this problem? My embouchure is centered, but I play with the mouthpiece facing slightly downwards. Are there any exercises I can do to strengthen the left side of my chops? I have read a few threads on here that mention Donald Byrd and suggest that air leakage isn't always a problem, but I think the air leakage is significant in my case. How can I strengthen the left side of my chops to stop the air leak?
    Thanks a lot.
     
  2. jaemard

    jaemard Mezzo Piano User

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    Have you tried doing push ups with your lips? I do them on hardwood floor.
     
  3. Jonesy08

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    Good one, but seriously, does anyone have any suggestions to help me out? Has anyone had any trouble with air leakage? I realize it's more of a beginner question, but I'd really appreciate it. Thanks.
     
  4. jaemard

    jaemard Mezzo Piano User

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    Does one side of your mouth actually have more mass than the other?
     
  5. Jonesy08

    Jonesy08 New Friend

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    It's my top lip. My bottom lip is perfectly symmetrical, but yeah, it seems like the right side of my top lip is different than my left. I know I can't help the anatomy of my mouth, but I need to stop the air from leaking out of the left side that's thinner.
     
  6. Vulgano Brother

    Vulgano Brother Moderator Staff Member

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    Do you hold your trombone straight out or is it a bit towards your right side? If the latter, try pointing your trumpet a bit to the left, so that there is more pressure on your left upper lip.
     
  7. barliman2001

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    A friend of mine with a similar problem was told "Get a second mouth." As this was not really feasible, he took to developing two embouchures: One to the left for trombone, one to the right for trumpet.
     
  8. J. Jericho

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    You might try a Warburton P.E.T.E. for a couple of months to see if that helps.
     
  9. gmonady

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    Hey, what are you talking 'bout. Do them all the time. OP, give my front desk a call, we'll get you into the clinic for a consultation. Since Kingtrumpet also plays the trombone, I am in the process of contacting him to be the organ donor. Not to worry, I already pronounced KT brain dead. So it's ethical.
     
  10. gmonady

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    Or you can just use a larger trumpet mouthpiece. Are you having similar issues with larger mouthpieces as well? If so, then I hate to admit it, but VB is otherwise spot on with this advice.
     

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