Alternate Fingerings

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  1. Comeback

    Comeback Forte User

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    I have been working through "The Art of Phrasing" melodies in Arban's in recent months on my Bb trumpets. On A's in the staff of brief duration, that are played via slurring, I play those notes more cleanly using the 3rd valve instead of valves 1 & 2. Is there any real downside to this technique that I should be aware of?

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  2. Sethoflagos

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    I don't see any downside to practising 3rd finger dexterity, Jim. Also with 1+2 being on the sharp side with most instruments, it should be easier to centre the note. I went through a phase of preferring 3 for top of stave E in a few keys.
     
  3. Rapier

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    If 1 and 2 are not clean, practice more. Better to work on the problem, than to avoid it.
     
  4. songbook

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    Comeback, I found in Jerry Grey's arrangement of "The Saint Louis Blues March" where the trumpets start off with an A above the staff that it was easier to slot that note with the third valve.Most other times I'm using the first and second. I guess it's up to the player as to what note sounds good in certain situations. Just my opinion.
     
  5. Vulgano Brother

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    Nothing wrong with using alternate fingerings.
     
  6. Comeback

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    Thank you for the responses, fellow TM'rs. Those Arban's phrasing melodies really help me focus on cleanliness of execution. The slurs involving A in the staff quickly reveal how perfectly coordinated conventional A fingerings truly are for me. Predictably an alternate fingering involving one valve instead of the conventional two is less likely to be a little sloppy.

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  7. Rapier

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    I agree, I use them a lot, but he said he has a problem with the usual fingering, so working on a weakness is always good. :cool:
     
  8. gmonady

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    I read the problem not so much as one of finger dexterity, but rather of ease of slotting. Alternate fingerings get my thumbs up every time when ANYTHING can ease the slotting, as it downloads work load on the lip, leaving them supple and ready to take on a flurry of passages that await in the bars that remain.
     
  9. gmonady

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    I would also go out on a limb to say there is nothing wrong with using alternate fingerings, particularly my right limb, that is the side that my playing fingers would be. I am a playing fool alternatively speaking.
     
  10. Harky

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    If we were taught "3" for A's and E's from the beginning, then wouldn't "1&2" be an alternate fingering? Problem fixed. :-o
     

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