An intriguing mouthpiece question

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  1. Clarkvinmazz

    Clarkvinmazz Forte User

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    So here's some food for thought to mull over in your spare time. What are your opinions on moupiece/ trumpet combinations? Do you use the same mouthpiece for every horn, or do you have a different one for each? Personally, I believe the mouthpiece fits the horn. My 1 1/4 c vb mouthpiece certainly doesn't sound and work as well on my super as it does on my strad, but at the same time a 3c will get amazing sounds out of just that horn, and not much else. At least for me, that is. Just curious what other peoples views are on this.
     
  2. Peter McNeill

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    Asymmetric Opera 545 for most uses:
    Preferred horn at the moment is Olds Superstar. Gives a warm sound

    For high solos or cutting: Asymmetric Lead 342M - Chainsaw is probably best analogy here..

    The horn varies often, but mpce gets varied through practice sessions, and sometimes rehearsals, but I rely on these for the gigs and endurance.

    I cannot get a warm section sound, and a lead cut with the same mpce, so carry these 2 as a normal rig.

    Cornet/Flugel/Trom/Eupho/Bari/etc have their own mpce.
     
  3. Vulgano Brother

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    I have a Reeves Dynamic Mass Purviance 8A that works on all horns. Weird, but true.
     
  4. ConnDirectorFan

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    Benge 4SC/Conn 5.5SC and Bach 10.75EW work pretty well with both my Yamaha 6310Z and King 1117SP - somewhat bright but flexible sound on both, and high register/projection is not an issue [though it is easy to overdo it and tire out with the Bach]

    Blessing 3C with Getzen 90 - works pretty well, considering the playing characteristics of the Getzen

    Benge 7-BR is best with my Yamaha 731 cornet, for a great, mellow cornet sound - but I can't vouch for the faltering intonation

    Bach 2CFL small shank is better with my Conn 24A/Willson flugel, especially because the previous owner reamed the receiver out with a Benge 3FL large shank, which didn't work well with the Conn playing-wise...

    As for my other horns, it tends to be whatever I feel like, as the mp/horn combinations don't make a huge difference...
     
  5. gmonady

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    OMG, Peter has been infected by the Kingtrumpet virus!!!!
     
  6. gmonady

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    It mostly depends on how the backbore of the mouthpiece matches the characteristics of the lead pipe of a specific horn. This is either a trial and error venture or with a chosen combination and the use of a gap kit to optimize that combination. In any event, here are combinations that work well for my horns.

    Olds 3 - The Olds Ambassador
    Olds 7c - The Olds Recording and Super Recording
    Gustat Heim G2 Kanstul copy - The Martin Committee
    Getzen 3 - The Getzen Eterna Flugelhorn
    Flip Oakes 3C - The Kanstul 1526 Flugelhorn
     
  7. Dale Proctor

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    I use some version of Mark Curry's 3. mouthpiece on all my cornets and trumpets (mainly a 3C. on trumpet and 3BBC. on cornet). On my flugel, I use a Callet SOLO mouthpiece. The Currys seem to work well on most any horn I try them on.
     
  8. 9horn

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    I have a Martin Committee model that plays best with the Martin 7 that it came with, throat opened to 23. The only mouthpiece out of my safari that seems to give the fullest sound and projects the sound forward.
     
  9. Sidekick

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    I almost always use my Curry 3C. on all my trumpets - mainly because it seems to work well with them all.

    I occasionally will practice with a Mendez 2, but just out of curiosity, if I am doing high note stuff.
     
  10. Rapier

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    Warburton 5S with 80 Series KT* Backbore for Bb Trumpet.
    Warburton 4MC with 80 Series 7 Backbore for Bb Cornet.
    Warburton 5FL for Flugel.
    Denis Wick 5 for C Trumpet.
     

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