Any valve trombone doublers here?

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  1. Sethoflagos

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    Instead of transposing up a major 2nd, it's a diminished 3rd. So C# becomes Eb; F# becomes Ab. Similarly, the more frequently encountered concert B can be easier to work through in Db than C#. And it's heads or tails whether you play concert E in F# or Gb.
     
  2. nieuwguyski

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    It depends on whether you'll be switching back and forth between trumpet and trombone during the course of a gig. If so, you'll need to practice going back and forth, and how to "find" the appropriate embouchure at a moment's notice. The important thing will be developing the knack of switching back to trumpet after you've played trombone as long and loud as you'll need to. I find that I have to play trombone with a pretty light touch to be able to easily switch back to trumpet. Aebersold tracks are a great training tool for heavy doubling. Play a chorus on trumpet, play the next one on trombone, and then switch back to trumpet. Start some on trombone and then play several choruses -- then switch to trumpet.

    If you'll only be playing valve trombone on a gig, once you get a feel for the embouchure and the air demands of the larger horn, you probably won't find that very much maintenance practice is needed.
     
  3. Ed Lee

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    A Thayer valve on a tenor T-bone switches the pitch from Bb to F. I regularly play a marching F mellophone.
     
  4. kingtrumpet

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    just to add to this -- so far in community band, I haven't had the opportunity to play both instruments in a concert yet --- I play trumpet in the concerts, and trombone in all the parades -----------------------just the same though, I still switch back and forth during each practice session to keep "both" embouchures in top notch shape ----------------------I started the trombone almost 2 years ago now -- the first 3 months of switching sucked ----- but I never lost much of the trumpet range, because I started out slow with the trombone (only a few minutes a day, then gradually added minutes of play time of the trom into my trumpet practice) ----------------now, I can switch to either instrument without any problems --------and I like that ability!!!! ---even though, yet, I haven't used it ----------------- I should have a fund raising gig in January for 10 wonderful minutes, in which I can display my abilities on both instruments!!!!
     
  5. mrsemman

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    I use my bass trumpet as a warm down or in my second practice session of the day, so that I can continue to work on my practice pieces without over doing the chops. I am currently using a Bach copy 12C, but will be looking at the Stork Custom mouthpieces soon.
     
  6. Dupac

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    I'm only an occasional doubler on valve trombone and I confess I don't practice very much on it… So I always had problems to manage the big mouthpiece! ... until I bought a Parduba 3 *** which is a special model dedicated to trumpet players (don't forget the 3 stars when ordering it):
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    Let me add that I only play parts for trumpet, an octave below, and that I think the valve trombone as a transposing horn: no bass key for me, and for me open notes are C, G,… not Bb, F, …
     
  7. mrsemman

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    What mouthpiece do you use? It looks much smaller than the 12C that came with my bass trumpet; and I am looking for a more comfortable piece. Is it a trombone mouthpiece?

    Thanks beforehand for any info.

    Gary
     
  8. Dupac

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