We are yet provided with another valuable lesson, which brings us back to the genesis of this thread. There are certain individuals who are obnoxious, loud and outspoken...while the comments made are not actually constructive, but meant to degrade and belittle. This is a bit more prevalant here than on other forums. Fortunately for the rest of us on TM, it is limited to a very few individuals! It is certain that some here will continue to provide us with "teachable" moments with insight into the inner workings of a trumpet player, especially if they have proven that they are in the minority. As a student of life, this is welcome and of great benefit to all.