I have realized something I thonk to be funny about trumpeters. It has to do with the finishes of horns When I was kid and started playing at 11, my mom rented me a nice shinny laquered Bundy student horn. I called it "the Dead Bundy". I got to the point that I hated that horn. Why, well all my friend were getting Strads, they were all silver. One evn had a French Besson with the inside of the bell finished in Gold something. Nice Looking horns. So, my mom went out and bought me a brand new Jupiter Pro horn. Which I was ok with. It actually played nice, you just had to take really good care of it because it wasn't put together as well as some other horns. Fast forward to me joining TM a year or so ago. Imagine my suprise when I am seeing guys asking about how to remove laqeur to get down to raw brass. People actually buying Raw Brass horns, horns that have a polished Raw Brass look. I just think it is funny that there is a Shiny to Dull (raw) culture out there. I would have never thought it to be so.