B-flat vs C trumpet

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  1. nickenator

    nickenator Pianissimo User

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    I am a comeback player and picked up the horn 2 years ago. I play in my community orchestra and recently have begun playing my C-trumpet more frequently. I find that from E to F I have trouble, even though I can play much higher on my B-flat. I use the same (5C) mouthpiece and try to use the same technique. Any thoughts, or is it more practice?
     
  2. bagmangood

    bagmangood Forte User

    E is almost always a problem note on C trumpets (well, trumpets)
    Are you playing it open or 1&2? The E being flat and the F being sharp can throw you off.
     
  3. ourcelay

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    In conection with the higher notes. It could be because you were not using your C trumpet, probabli if you use it frecuently you start to open the trumpet and could get as high as in Bb.
     
  4. Bob Grier

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    Can you e more specific? What trouble? Otherwise we're guessing.
     
  5. rowuk

    rowuk Moderator Staff Member

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    C trumpets are different animals than Bbs. It is very possible that you will need time to get used to the instrument. The c in the staff is often too sharp, 4rth line D, 4rth space Eb and E are often VERY flat. The G on top of the staff can also be sharp. That makes them tougher to play until you have enough acclimatization time.
     
  6. Dupac

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    Is this remark also valid for C cornets ? I own a vintage C/Bb Selmer I only use as C horn, and do not hear those issues ; but maybe it's me ! Many thanks in advance for your answer, Rowuk.
     
  7. stumac

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    When I took up trumpet 25 years ago I bought a New old stock C trumpet so I did not have to transpose every week, I could not transpose on the fly then,
    no one told me the difficulties of the C (there was no internet then) I just thought it was a trumpet in another key and played it as such. I had no complaints, only compliments.

    Perhaps because it was a Selmer Radial 99 it made a difference, I always felt the C sat better with the pipe organ than the Bb.

    Regards, Stuart.
     
  8. Bucaneer61

    Bucaneer61 Pianissimo User

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    Stumac,

    I too have a radial 99 C. It's the best C I've ever [played. Wonderful intonation and very nice sound. Only have to use 1-2 for the 4th space E, but I think that's me more than the horn, as I don't play C all the time.

    Michael
     
  9. dabhand

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    Dear Nickeanator
    As Rowuk points out, it is a matter of acclimatisation when used to a particular keyed trumpet eg Bb, having to get accustomed to playing another keyed trumpet .
    It takes time and practice to get to the same level as the usual Bb
    I personally have not made it yet to be equally adept with all Trumpets !
    Kind regards
    Dabhand
     

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