Bach Omega

Discussion in 'Horns' started by brian moon, Sep 21, 2006.

  1. brian moon

    brian moon Forte User

    A local store is pushing Bach Omegas now. They are stocking them with 5C mouthieces. That isn't standard on the Omega, is it? I also have seen two versions of the Omega. One is a Tr200 and the other is a Tr300. They are only marked Omega but it is easy to tell the difference. If someone mail orders one how do they know which one that they are getting?

    Maybe the Tr300 said Prelude on it, but I don't think so.
    Last edited: Sep 21, 2006
  2. oldlou

    oldlou Forte User

    Aug 28, 2005
    Grand Rapids, Mi.
    It is usually not wise to buy any musical instrument sight unseen or untried. If you do, be sure of a return for refund privelage. As for being uncertain as to whether you will be receiving a TR 200, or TR 300, that is easy. Specify which you are paying for. In the event that the dealer plays 'bait and switch' with you, you then have grounds for suit, or, at least for action by his local trade association or Better Business Bureau.

  3. Clarence

    Clarence Mezzo Forte User

    Jun 23, 2005
    san diego
    I owned a omega and dat lil sucker was tight!
    great studio horn, very cutting and strong blowing!
    hell, i even blew dat lil sucker apart.
    good thing i only paid $150 for it . lasted one year exactly!
  4. Bill Dishman

    Bill Dishman Piano User

    Nov 22, 2003
    Gainesville, Florida
    Please inform me if I am incorrect but my understanding was that the Bach Omega line of horns was a "step up" instrument between the student model TR-300 (with 1st slide saddle) and the Bach Stradivarius professional models. The TR-200 was also a lower level student model horn just like the TR-300 but without the 1st slide saddle and with an adjustable 3rd slide ring.

    A private student of mine a few years ago purchased an Omega model horn and it was very good...but.....for the money she paid, I would have had her get a quality used Bach Strad or waited a little longer to save up for a new Strad.

    The post about a $150 Omega must have been refering to a real "steal" of a deal as even a few years ago the Omega were listing for $1200 or there about (retail).

    I was also under the impression that Bach stopped making the Omegas a while back (even before the strike) so any new ones coming around now must have been stockpiled in inventory. I may be incorrect in this however.

    Bill Dishman
    Gainesville, Florida
  5. Clarence

    Clarence Mezzo Forte User

    Jun 23, 2005
    san diego
    Oh yeah!
    bought that omega in a used guitar store.
    the guy just had all kinds of trumpets hanging off the wall.
    i remember trying 5 or 6 horns before i came across that one.
    hmmmmmm about 8 years ago alright.
  6. brian moon

    brian moon Forte User

    The Omega played pretty well but was a bit heavy. The horn that I thought was a Tr-300 version of the Omega may have been the accursed, chinese built, Prelude. I'll check again tomorrow.

    Bill the Tr-200 is the intermediate Bach. It has a Strad body and a different leadpipe with a 2 piece version of a Bach 37 (pretty similar to the TR-300 bell). They may getting close to chinese production, if not already, also.
  7. Clarence

    Clarence Mezzo Forte User

    Jun 23, 2005
    san diego
    oh yeah, i knew i had the china one, for sure.
    it said omega and nothing else.
  8. Trumpet En Fuego

    Trumpet En Fuego Piano User

    Sep 9, 2009
    Austin, TX
    TR-300 and TR-200 are not the omega!!!!! The Omega is a completely different horn.
  9. joe1joey

    joe1joey Piano User

    Jul 3, 2010
    E.Panhandle WV
    That's my understanding as well. BTW, a surprisingly good horn for the current resale prices (300 up to foolish of course)
  10. ogauge47

    ogauge47 Piano User

    Dec 26, 2008
    Metro Detroit, Michigan
    For those who are wondering, this is a Bach Omega

    It has a Strad valve block and a 3rd valve stop rod. It has a 2 piece bell. It was discontinued because it started taking sales away from the Strad.

    Here is a Strad for comparison:

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