bach third slide stop rod

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  1. alant

    alant Pianissimo User

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    Can anyone confirm how you fit the third slide stop rod on a strad, does it just screw in? the one i have had for some time does not seem to have a thread on the end that goes into the slide.
     
  2. Dale Proctor

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    There's a set screw in the bottom of the rod post that holds it in.
     
  3. coolerdave

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    not only does Dale know Cornets but ......:thumbsup:
     
  4. trumpetnick

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    Whis type is yours:

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  5. Dale Proctor

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    My Bach cornet has one like that...:D

    Seriously, though, I like Bach Instruments. I currently have 3 Strads...a '76 43 ML Strad Bb, an '83 239 ML Strad C, and a '93 184G L Strad cornet. Even though I talk Conn a lot, no Bach bashing from me.
     
  6. trumpetsplus

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    Bach use a steel set screw which rusts and starts to turn black. When I do any work on a Strad I replace this with a Stainless Steel one which always looks much nicer.
     
  7. trumpetnick

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    +1. Never liked their stop rod style, which is:

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    Reason one - as pointed out by Ivan.
    Reason 2 - if it get twisted or damaged in anyway it will obstruct the movement of the 2rd slide.

    Which is why I love the fact, that spada puts the getzen style stop rods (the second pic on my previous posts, which are easily replaceable if faulty) on their strad conversions.
     
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  8. Dale Proctor

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    I've always preferred the rod style over the thumbscrew stop, mainly because the thumbscrew isn't adjustible for throw length. The best setup, I think, is the old Conn one, where you have cushioned adjustible stops for both in and out. That pic by Trumpetnick is one of those long aftermarket "low F" rods, not a stock Bach one.

    The Bach set screws I've seen have been black even when new. I'm guessing they have a black nitride finish. A stainless replacement would be nice, though.

    Conn stop rod assembly
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  9. trumpetnick

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    Hey Dale,

    How would you play those low Fs in Carmen Prologue and some R. Strauss pieces if you had to with that kind of stop? Of course, this is a cornet, but that's not what the question is about....
     
  10. Dale Proctor

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    I don't play that classical crap any more. Vintage Conn trumpets have the same setup, so it's not just a cornet thing. That said, it can be done by using both 1st and 3rd slides, and/or extending the "dump slide" on horns that have them. How would you do it on a horn with a Getzen style stop?
     

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