Best Big Band/ Lead Trpt Combination

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  1. Larry Gianni

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    OK,

    Because we are on the topic of lead trumpet sounds let's see what everyone thinks about the lead trumpets and there affiliation with name Big Bands.

    Example:

    For my money, Dave Stahl was the best lead trumpet Buddy Rich ever carried. (Chuck Schmidt a close second), but Dave Stahl was a bad choice as lead trumpet (as far as style) that Base used. Lin biviano did more for me with Basie just because of the excitement he brought to the table.

    Here we go:

    Buddy Rich - Dave Stahl
    Woody Herman - Roger Ingram ( Bill Chase close second )
    Stan Kenton - Dalton Smith ( John Harner close second )
    Maynard - Lin Biviano
    Basie - Al Porcino, Snooky Young tie
    Ray Charles - Byron Stripling
    Bob Florence - George Graham
    Skitch Henderson - Doc Severinson
    Terry Gibb - Buddy Childers ( louis Valizon, 2nd )
    Thad Jones/ Mel Lewis - Jon Faddis
    Capp/Pierce Juggarnaut - Bobby Shew
    Bill Holman - Buddy Childers
    Tokisho - Bobby Shew

    Ok, you get the idea. Again , no wrong or right answers plus I would like to hear about more regional big bands and there hard driving lead trpt player


    Well you get the idea and if you can, name the album that backs up your claim and if you disagree let's hear that too, but be ready to back it up also.

    Larry
     
  2. Larry Gianni

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    Sorry, I forgot a few,

    Don Ellis - Glenn Stuart
    Oliver Nelson - Bobby Bryant
    Gerald Wilson - Snooky Young
    Fania all-stars - Victor Paz
    Chico O'Farrell - Kevin Seely, Roger Ingram

    I realize that this is very unfair to all the lead trumpets that played with these bands ( some of them good friends of mine that I didn;t pick ), but it's just to see what everyone thinks, all in good fun. Sorry, Wayne

    larry
     
  3. MPM

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    Lead Trumpet Players

    Larry ... you always seem to come up with something fun! I'm only gonna pick one each, but there many others per band!

    Maynard Ferguson - Chet Ferretti

    Buddy Rich - Shew

    Basie - Snooky

    Skitch Henderson (NBC) - Doc

    NBC Johnny Carson - Audino - Findley (ok I had to go with those two)

    Woody Herman - Joe Rodriguez (now in SF area)

    Terry Gibbs - Al Porcino

    Frank Sinatra - GOZ

    Severinsens Big Band - Tom DeLibero / Tony Scodwell

    Wayne Newton - Wes Marshal / Kevin Lawson

    Gordon Goodwind Phat Band - Wayne Bergeron

    Then too I have mention Bob McCoy & Chuck Findley as lead players period!
     
  4. PH

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    The best marriages between a lead trumpeter and the band are really about a marriage between the lead trumpeter and the drummer. The two best drummer/lead player hook ups I've ever heard are:

    Benny Bailey & Kenny Clarke with the Clarke/Boland Band
    Earl Gardner & Mel Lewis with the Mel Lewis Orchestra
     
  5. Larry Gianni

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    Hi all,

    Here's a Maynard lead player that get's overlooked alot and I almost picked him. His trgic death in 1969 really put a halt to a great career.


    Nat Pavone - MF Dream band late '60's


    Larry
     
  6. Gnostic

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    :)
     
  7. MPM

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    Nat Pavone

    Yup ... a rock solid one!

    There are so many really fine lead trumpet players over the years ..

    John Madrid!!! Yes that's a name that too often gets forgotten!
     
  8. tiny tim

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    Pat Metheny Group

    Not Big Band per se, mais.........

    Pat Metheny (Group) - Cuong Vu

    who also glides in with drummer Antonio Sanchez, esp for Pat and Lyle's compositions...
     
  9. Thevor

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    Larry,

    I heard Maynard last year live at the Jazz Alley in Seattle.

    How would you say Patrick Hession stacks up to the other lead trumpet's that Maynard has had in the past? He seems to be a pretty hot talent.

    Thevor
     
  10. Larry Gianni

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    Hi Thevor,

    To tell you the truth, I don't know Pat Hession's playing all that well at this point. I'm sure I'll hear more of this guy.I'm sure he excellent if he's playing with Maynard's band.

    If I was to rate any of the new lead players in Maynard's BBN days I'd have to list Scott Englebright and Roger Ingram. I would say some of the lead players deserving more attention are Greene, Pete Olstad and Steve Reid. Wayne Bergeron would be pre-BBN , I beleive.

    Roger Ingram's playing has really matured from his days with MF and now his playing is in a catagory of very eleite lead trumpet players. He is, for my money, the best big band lead trumpet in his generation ( and many other's ) becasue of his superb style, intensity and the way, like Bill chase did , the got the whole band to play better when he played.

    Larry
     

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