best finish/plate for lightweight bach?

Discussion in 'Horns' started by Hiwiller, Jan 23, 2005.

  1. Hiwiller

    Hiwiller New Friend

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    I'm considering getting my 200,XXX Bach overhauled. It is a 37 with Lightweight bell, originally gold lacquer.

    Any tips on what finish/plating might be best for this light horn?

    Thanks,
    Doug
     
  2. MUSICandCHARACTER

    MUSICandCHARACTER Forte User

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    I'm not sure it matters that much. The new lacquers are pretty thin (as compared to 30 years ago) and the finishes are all thinly applied. Gold might be the worst option as it has to go over silver.

    It you like the new scratched brass look, the lacquer has more surface area to adhere to and goes on nicely of it.

    But realistically, any finish would be fine. I would suggest getting the one you like the best.

    Jim
     
  3. Hiwiller

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    Thanks Jim.

    Any reason that Borodi might not be the best place to have this done? I recall reading that they specialize in certain manufacturers and that Bach wasn't one of those listed...

    Feel free to PM me with any opinions.

    I am being cautious coz this horn is my "first love" and I'd be crushed if anything happened to it. (of couse if anything did happen, I'd have to check out the new Kanstuls... ;-) ) That said, I want to preserve the horn so the work is probably due considering the wear that it shows.
     
  4. eclipse trumpets

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    Hiwiller

    My question to you would be:-

    What do sound do you want from the horn? as some finishes can affect that.

    Let me know and i can comment on a finish i believe would be suitable.

    Best Wishes

    Leigh
     
  5. Heavens2kadonka

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    I am telling you guys, I have no idea why nickel silver isn't used as much as plating? It gets a really warm sound, and I detect no sharpness at all in the sound, like regular nickel plate...

    Van
     
  6. soontir2432

    soontir2432 Pianissimo User

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    Is there even someone that plates in nickel silver?
     
  7. Hiwiller

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    Hi Leigh,

    Thanks for the reply. Exactly what you said is why I asked. Right now I get a nice soft round tone in the middle and lower registers and with the right mp, a great sizzle in the upper register. I like it just the way it sounds with the factory finish.

    That said, I wouldn't mind a nice plating/fancy finish like we all see with your horns :cool: etc. So, I guess the answer is that I'd like to keep the sound as close as possible to what I described and still give it a sharp new horn look.

    Cheers,
    Doug.
     
  8. crazyhorns

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  9. MUSICandCHARACTER

    MUSICandCHARACTER Forte User

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    Sure, nickel silver is used a lot. Here is one place:
    http://www.musical-instrument-repair-shop.com/trumpetrepair.htm

    Here is a picture from that site with black nickel and gold trim:

    [​IMG]

    Jim
     
  10. nieuwguyski

    nieuwguyski Forte User

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    I don't know exactly what "black nickel" is, but it ain't nickel silver. Folks, nickel silver isn't platable -- it's an alloy, like brass, that horns are either made of or not.
     

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