Best Teacher.....better be Charlie Geyer

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  1. MJ

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    If anyone has aspirations of playing in an orchestra and wants to get an education to prepare him or herself to win a job it is very important to take a look at where former students are winding up.


     
  2. Jhorn229h

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    AMEN!

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  3. amtrpt

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    Lots of great ideas on this one. Thanks for the input.

    Mr. Clean,
    Nice too see your post. Hope all is well in LA.

    Andrew
     
  4. JMesh

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    However, at this point it is important to draw attention to another aspect of the Butler/Geyer studio success: the quality of the students as students. If you read up on Barbara's ITG master class (http://www.trumpetguild.org/2006conference/thur/303.html), you would note that she talks about the determination of her successful students and their willingness to teach themselves. I'll never try to diminish how instrumental Butler and Geyer have been very important in their success as I have the highest respect for both of them, but if the right techniques are applied, any student, regardless of quality of teacher (although this would make it harder/easier), could in fact be as successful.
     
  5. Jimi Michiel

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    When he was an active teacher, Mr. Vacchiano was THE teacher. He got the best students, and helped those students reach their potential. It seems like the same thing is now happening at Northwestern. I doubt that Mr. Vacchiano's success will ever be replicated, for many of the same reasons that the Canadians, Celtics, UCLA Bruins and (especially!) the Yankees will never dominate in the same way they once did.

    The Influence of Mr. William Vacchiano
    A fact sheet compiled by Brian A. Shook
    The following is a partial list of former students who studied with Mr. Vacchiano and what positions they hold/held. This list is not comprehensive – the estimated total number of students taught by Mr. Vacchiano exceeds 2,000.
    New York Philharmonic
    • Morris Boltuch – former 4th trumpet
    • Carmine Fornarotto – former 2nd trumpet
    • Philip Smith – current principal
    • James Smith - former 4th trumpet
    • John Ware - former co-principal
    Metropolitan Opera Orchestra
    • Joseph Alessi, Sr. – former 2nd trumpet
    • Mel Broiles – former principal
    • Frank Hosticka – associate musician
    • David Krauss – current principal
    • James Pandolfi – former 3rd trumpet
    Orchestra
    • Stephen Chenette – Minnesota Orchestra, former principal
    • Philip Collins – Cincinnati Symphony, current principal
    • Armando Ghitalla – Boston Symphony Orchestra, former principal
    • Richard Giangiulio – Dallas Symphony Orchestra, former principal
    • Chandler Goetting - Symphony Orchestra of the Bavarian Radio, former principal
    • Don Green – Los Angeles Philharmonic, current principal
    • Mike Hipps – Minnesota Orchestra, retired
    • David Kuehn – Buffalo Philharmonic Orchestra, former principal
    • Manny Laureano –Minnesota Orchestra, current principal
    • Douglas Lindsay – Cincinnati Symphony Orchestra, current associate principal
    • Adel Sanchez – National Symphony Orchestra, assistant principal
    • Charles Schlueter – Boston Symphony Orchestra, current principal
    • Thomas Stevens – Los Angeles Philharmonic, former principal
    • Bruce Revesz – New York City Opera Orchestra, retired
    Conductors
    • Albert Ligotti – Athens Symphony, Georgia
    • Gerard Schwarz – Music Director, Seattle Symphony, Royal Liverpool Philharmonic Orchestra
    • Gene Young
    NYC Ballet
    • Ronald Anderson – former principal, currently teaching at Bennington College
    • Neil Balm – current co-principal NYC Ballet
    • Robert Haley – NYC Ballet
    • Theodore Weis – NYC Ballet and Opera, former principal
    Studio/Freelance
    • Neil Balm – New York City
    • Robert Karon – Los Angeles
    • Malcolm McNab – Los Angeles
    • Alan Rubin – New York City
    • Lee Soper – New York City
    Jazz
    • Donald Byrd
    • Mercer Ellington
    • Jonah Jones
    • Wynton Marsalis
    • Joseph Wilder
    Soloists/Chamber Artists
    • Stephen Burns - soloist and Artistic Director of Fulcrum Point
    • Fred Mills - formerly with Canadian Brass, currently at University of Georgia
    • Ronald Romm – formerly with Canadian Brass, currently at University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
    Professors
    • Edward Carroll – California Institute of the Arts
    • Mario Guarneri – formerly with LA Philharmonic, currently at San Francisco Conservatory
    • Louis Ranger – University of Victoria, BC
    • Jeffrey Silberschlag – St Mary’s College of Maryland
     
  6. Jimi Michiel

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    + Miles Davis (if only for 3 semesters)
     
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    Jimi,
    Thanks for the amazing information on Mr. Vacchiano. It's amazing how many wonderful players he had a hand in developing.
    Thanks!
    Andrew
     
  8. trpt2

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    Not to cause a stir, but,

    In Philly, the Only student of theirs was Chris Martin. It sounds like you are doubling the success rate, as I am assuming you are including Chris in Chicago and Atlanta, as well as Philly. Please correct me if I am wrong.
    Also, don't forget James Darling:
    Students in:
    Phoenix
    Dallas
    Detroit
    Cincinnati
    Cleveland
    Philadelphia
    Mexico
    (I believe LA, but could be wrong)
    And if you are counting players winning other jobs, you must count Montreal, San Francisco Opera, San Antonio)
    These are by no means a complete list- just off the top of my head. Too bad he retired from teaching, as well as Cleveland-
    Truly a remarkable teacher!
    (almost all of these from Baldwin-Wallace, no less!!!-"WHERE"???)
    Also, you can add me to the list of Ghitalla, and Vacchiano., two other greats who have saved my life more times than I can count, orchestrally!
    Bob
     
  9. MJ

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    Thanks for the post Bob. Welcome to the TM!
     
  10. trpt2345

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    Right off the bat, the first three on your list are no longer around, so they won't do much good for a prospective student any more, no one can study with them. One observation: three of the four trumpet players in the Chicago Symphony trumpet section are Barbara Butler students. Pretty good track record. She was a student of both Cichowicz and Jacobs, and you can still study with her. As a matter of fact, she and Charlie replaced Chichowicz at Northwestern when the latter retired. Sort of full circle.
     

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