Best trumpets for high notes

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  1. gzent

    gzent Fortissimo User

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    The closer a horn "fits" the player the easier the upper end will be.
    The mouthpiece gap and leadpipe are the primary components that need to be
    considered when finding a horn that fits.

    There are innumerable variations and each player is different as to what combo of gap/leadpipe (and to some extent, the bell)
    will give them the easiest upper end.

    Now, once you have an idea of what works for you, I will ditto what Gary said. Getting a Harreslon Summit with the options
    that fit me made my upper end clearer, stronger and easier.

    GZ
     
  2. bamajazzlady

    bamajazzlady Mezzo Forte User

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    No such thing as a best trumpet for high notes as it's the player who's responsible for those.
     
  3. trickg

    trickg Utimate User

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    My take is that while the notes should be there (in theory) regardless of the trumpet, assuming that the player is using a solid instrument and not some clinker, getting the right sound in the upper register is a different matter altogether. I had a Bach Strad LB 25 bell that was a solid enough trumpet, but I worked my butt off with that horn in the party band - getting the revved up sizzle and pop out of the horn was a lot more work than on the horn I replaced it with, a Schilke B6. Once I got the Schilke, things got easier because the B6 was better suited (IMO) to that kind of playing.

    Likewise, years ago when I was playing in a Latin band, my friend Rusty had a Bach Strad, and he sounded fine on it. Then he picked up a Yamaha 6310Z Bobby Shew (prior to the release of the 8310Z) and POW! His lead playing in the Latin band changed unbelievably. I think that part of it was the same thing I experienced with my B6 - just a better suited sound for the task.

    So, for getting that kind of high range sizzle and pop, there are some horns that I think are better than others:

    Yamaha Bobby Shew 8310Z or 6310Z
    Schilke B6, B1, X3
    Kanstul Chicago Series - if these are good clones of the old Burbank Benges, those horns tend to be highly regarded as lead horns
    Kanstul Mariachi - the clone of the old Conn Connstellation
    Yamaha Mirashiro model

    Or, anything else that works - I've played a couple of other horns that were really nice in that regard. I played a Shires one day that was killer - if I'd have had the cash I'd have bought it on the spot! I also played a Carol that was unreal good, especially considering how inexpensive (relatively) it was.
     
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  4. Dr.Mark

    Dr.Mark Mezzo Forte User

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    Hi trumpet fart,
    You asked:
    "Just wondering what are good attributes in a trumpet for getting high notes?
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    Any fine made Bb horn will work just fine.
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    I am wanting to play alot of Salsa, where you are having to hit high notes, and I will be buying a pro trumpet next year or the year after, so am trying to get some ideas, many thanks.
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    I've got good news, and bad. The good news is that salsa is hot and exciting with a lot of quick VERY high trumpet parts. I just love playing salsa.
    The bad news. It's not the horn, it's the person who must have the skills to play in the upper register. You have to ask yourself, do you like a horn with a lot of resistance? No resistance? Your best bet is to shop around because I fear that no one here can intelligently head you toward a horn that fits how you play without knowing what "you" call comfortable. Some would call a Strad comfortable, some would call an MF horn comfortable. It depends on you the player.
    The best anyone can do is to name some brands that high note specialists use. Possibly get hold of Adam Rapa and ask him.
    Dr.Mark
    Something I just remembered:
    There's a mouthpiece called an Assymetric that"for me" screamed till the cows came home. I can't play in the lower register with it (due to my inabilities I'm sure) but wow can it scream.
     
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  5. Hugh Anderson

    Hugh Anderson Pianissimo User

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    Getting up high and staying up high are 2 different things. They often take 2 different horns.
     
  6. edfitzvb

    edfitzvb Forte User

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    As most have said, it is the player and not the horn. That being said, some horns light up better than others. The easiest horns I ever played "up high" were Calicchio, every Schilke I ever played, and the uptilt Herriot model Leblanc I once owned. They would cut like nobody's business, shred wallpaper up high, and curl the paint off.... at least from my perspective behind the horn.
     
  7. songbook

    songbook Piano User

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    The best advice I received was from a wise old trumpet player many years ago. He said it's not the plumbing, but the plumber.
     
  8. TrentAustin

    TrentAustin Fortissimo User

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    The one you practice the most on.
     
  9. Darten

    Darten Mezzo Piano User

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    A pygmy piccolo trumpet would play even higher.
     
  10. Dr.Mark

    Dr.Mark Mezzo Forte User

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    Hi Hugh,
    You stated:
    "Getting up high and staying up high are 2 different things. They often take 2 different horns. "
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    From my experience, this is not the way most trumpet players approach this problem. That's not to say there not a few out there that have a special horn for just the upper register, but the overwhelming majority of trumpet players do not possess a second horn simply for stratospheric playing. Many trumpet players (including myself) will have more than one horn on stage but that's because the different horns possess different timbres (if I'm using the word correctly). As for the horns I bring on stage, they all play as low and as high as I can go and they all can play in a controlled or hot manner in the upper register. It's just that different horns have different colors to their sound.
    Dr.Mark
     

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