WOW - I can't believe I am coming to Rowuk's defense --he is perfectly capable of answering for himself..... Hey, calm down, take a deep breath, and relax. Rowuk and many others here may have played a long time---BUT CLEARLY INTERNET analysis of your playing is probably NOT the best source of embouchure help. AND when I or someone else (LIKE ROWUK) explains something --- WE (rowuk ole buddy, ole pal, and I) are merely illustrating our experience, and our viewpoint. ------IT IS NOT always easily conveyed over electronic media -- in just plain words --- in my opinion that is. so you should give Rowuk a break ---- poor old fella anyhow!!!!!