Brass Band Etiquette.....

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  1. revjames

    revjames Piano User

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    I am always being told off at my Brass band....

    I have a bad habit...

    No one complains when I do it at Jazz Club

    No one minds when I do it at Church when I play


    I tap my foot to keep time....

    We had a sectional practice to prepare us for a big competition today and I had a big telling off about it!
     
  2. Cornyandy

    Cornyandy Fortissimo User

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    I am a dedicated foot tapper too and although I have never been scolded in a Brass Band I have had orchestral contuctors not like it. There a two things, some conductors think that if you tap your foot you tend to find your own beat rather than that of the conductor. Also in a contest where deportment is marked having 20 odd brass players tapping their feet looks a little disturbing.

    Having said that James you are a grown man and if you are being "told off" big time, especially in front of others I regard that as unacceptable and demaning behavior and although I would have appologised and told the MD I would do my best to eradicate the issue but that I did not appreciate being spoken to "like that" An adult should never demean another with a "Big Telling Off"

    To get round the problem I wear decent size shoes and tap my toe inside it.

    I no longer play in Brass Bands because I have had enough of small minds being focussed on the great god of "the contest" and "The Band" everything including the individual coming secondary "We are Band Resistance is Futile, Your playing distinctiveness will be added to our own, Resistance is Futile We Are Band" If music and the individual is forgotten the fun goes out of it for me. I have a friend who plays in a Brass Band (training band) and she is continually frustrated at how the good of the band is put before the good of the player. Players being pushed too hard in terms of range and stamina because it is good for the band Oh and if it wrecks your lip for a few days or longer that's your problem.
     
  3. revjames

    revjames Piano User

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    Andy, it wasn't really a demeaning kind of public disgrace but he did make a big point about it.. I am grown up enough (I think) to be able to laugh about these things. We had a sectional practice with a specialist tutor brought in to coach cornets, horns, basses, troms etc.

    Having said that, the last contest we did in the North wales Theatre, My foot tapping (on the not so solid wooden stage) did get a bit out of hand to the point where the music stands near me were wobbling around!

    I really try not to tap but my years of playing rhythm instruments such as drums and bass guitars don't help.

    The reason I joined the band in the first place was because my timing was so bad and I wanted to be disicplined in sight reading etc too. It has been a great help and to be honest I like it. But if something had to go because of commitments, it would be the band - I still play in church and jazz clubs.

    Just wondered if there was an etiquette about these things and how others coped :)
     
  4. Rapier

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    Simple don't tap your feet. I had a mild go at a violinist at orchestra a couple of months back. Told him if he must tap his foot, try to do it in time with the conductor. And if you really can't play without doing it, tap your big toe inside your shoe then you won't annoy the conductor, or me.
     
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  5. Vulgano Brother

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    I bought some socks in Japan that have a separate big toe that make it easy to tap inside the shoe.
     
  6. barliman2001

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    I've seen the havoc tapping feet can wreak... A biggish brass band contest in Scotland. Open-air. (those in the know will know which contest it is). One of the only contests where having a mug of beer beside you is not only countenanced, but somehow actively encouraged, members of the audience buying beers for the players and placing them near the music stands.
    And now imagine a rather large principal cornet player with the habit of tapping his (rather large) foot. Some time during the test piece, he touched his pint, which fell over, rolled sideways and touched off the next two pints... so we had three pints of Belhaven Best flooding the stage. That in itself would not yet have been catastrophic; but the conductor who had not yet seen the disaster stepped right into the mess, went slithering backwards on the highly polished parqueted stage and finally threw a half-somersault into the audience and onto a local councillor's lap.
    Performance ended, band disqualified and disgraced.

    SO DON'T TAP IN BRASS BAND (or if you must, go back to perc.)
     
  7. revjames

    revjames Piano User

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    Barliman that is so funny! put a big smile on my face.... I know the foot tapping is wrong but was interested to hear your experiences..... never been offered a beer at a Band gid but you never know....
     
  8. Dean_0

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    We were told to never move feet /horns ,or whatever to the beat ,the beat was to be in the head ,i have seen some very professional players do it and it just screems out to me ,,,,,I CANT TELL TIME !

    Anyway its a learned habit ,it can be un-learned ,given time and practice good luck :D

    Dean_0
     
  9. Cornyandy

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    But the tradgedy is the waste of the Bellhaven (of Dunbar) Best, I suppose it could have been worse, it could have been at Hardraw and been Theakstone's arrrgggggg
     
  10. barliman2001

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    There's even further beer chaos, involving the same principal cornet player... an entertainment gig somewhere in Scotland. Plenty of free beer in soft plastic quart (!!) beakers. Band stand at applause, second front row cornet sneaks a drink from his beer and puts it down on principal cornet player's seat. Principal promptly sits down, crushing the beaker and spraying beer here, there and everywhere... while wearing a Baloo the Bear costume (we were doing a Jungle Book medley).
     

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