Buzzing w/o Mouthpiece

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by Alex_C, May 31, 2010.

  1. Alex_C

    Alex_C Piano User

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    Is this good? Talk about easy practice if it is.
     
  2. Sofus

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    Hi, Alex! These are my thoughts:

    1) Buzzing without mp:
    * one can see some really good players in here demonstrate this.
    Whether it´s because they can or because it has some value
    to them, I have not been able to make out yet. Let´s hope that some
    of the good "Lip Buzzers" read this and give their view on this!
    * others (like myself) feel that the tension in the lips is very different
    from buzzing with a mp or playing on the horn. Fear of introducing bad
    habbits keeps at least myself from doing it.

    2) Buzzing with a mouthpiece:
    * a more common practice, but many players suggest it to be held to a
    maximum of only a few minutes. It´s usually performed as part of the
    warmup (I do a bit myself).
    * some methods say that the best sound on the mp when buzzing it
    does not give the best sound on the trumpet. This can be explored by
    holding the best sounding tone you can produce on your horn and then
    removing the horn while continuing to buzz the mp in the exact same way.
    Try it and evaluate . . .


    3) None of these buzzing exercises are ment to be done instead of other practising.
    In fact, there are those who don´t do them at all. Even those who spend many hours
    every day practising wouldn´t spend too long time buzzing the mp alone.


    Maybe you were hoping for a Yes/No answer, but, as you will find out, for every question
    discussed in here there are a number of opinions. Hope it helped anyway . . .

    :-)
     
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  3. SteveMac

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    Buzzing without a MP does not give you any resistance at all. That is something needed when practicing. Even buzzing with a MP does not give enough resistance. There is something called the BuzzzMaster, that is supposed to give that resistance you need. I have wondered about that tool myself, but have not tried one yet.
     
  4. Alex_C

    Alex_C Piano User

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    OK sounds like it is good but not the total picture.

    Like dry-firing and extra points for those who knows what that is.
     
  5. SteveMac

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    Squeezing the trigger on an empty gun...:thumbsup: How many points do I get???:D
     
  6. Alex_C

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    A boocoo-zillion.

    Match guns (we're talking the gun you might shoot in the Olympics) are made to be able to be dry-fired a lot without harming the gun.
     
  7. SteveMac

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    Now do I get extra points as well for guessing Anschutz??? I am excited now... I never win anything..:thumbsup:
     
  8. SteveMac

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    I know we are off topic, but..... I did work with a gunsmith for 4 years, and even though those match guns are made so the firing pin never strikes the breech, you can still break the firing pin from repeated beatings with nothing to slow its fall. Anschutz now makes a pin just for dry firing practice. You just replace it for practice so you won't break the good one.
     
  9. Alex_C

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    Well, I *have* been known to use up a firing pin or two lol.

    Anyway, good tips about the resistance folks. Sometimes on the MP I put a finger over the end partially to give some resistance.
     
  10. trumpet45

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    I usually start my practice by doing a couple, no more than three-four minutes of lip buzzing, no mp. I do an arpeggio from middle g to low c back to g, to middle c to fourth space e to the g right above that then down to e, to c to g to low c. Then I do the same exercise half a step lower and so on, chromatically, until I reach low c#. Then I repeat the exercise but this time I go all the way to high c. I find that this routine strengthens the corners of my mouth and gets the center of the chops nice and warm. After that I repeat the same routine but this time using the mouthpiece. This routine leaves the chops tingling and ready for whatever practice routine I might choose for the day.
     

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