C to D trills

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  1. Hornhead

    Hornhead Pianissimo User

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    Hi all, this is my 1st post. I have beeen playing trumpet since i was 7, now 56.

    I own

    1952 Martin Committe Deluxe w/Heim 2 Mouthpiece (Play most of the time)

    1976 Silver Bach Strad ML 37 Bell with 24 CT gold trim kit and 1st Valve trigger

    1994 Callichio Silver 2/2 ML (Reeves Aligned)

    and last but not least a 1972 Yamaha silver YFH-731 Flugel wtih a Reeves/Purviance P8 Rim F E mouthpiece.

    I use various mouthoieces on the Bach & Callichio. ( Bach 3C, Purviance 8A and sometimes just for fun a Marcinkiewicz Bobby shew

    More on my history later.

    My question is any tips or tricks to make fast trilling between C and D on the staff easier?
     
  2. Vulgano Brother

    Vulgano Brother Moderator Staff Member

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    Welcome to TM, Hornhead!

    Sometimes kind of holding our lips like a C# makes the trill easier. Is it equally difficult if you start on the D and trill to the C?

    Have fun!
     
  3. Hornhead

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    Thanks for the suggestion. That is waht i thought and what I have been tryiing. Playing the C a bit sharp. I can get D to E flying and Bb to C but C to D is a bitch! it is really hard to get it locked in.

    Almost got it on my Bach with the Purviance mouthpiece.

    F to G is tough too!
     
  4. Vulgano Brother

    Vulgano Brother Moderator Staff Member

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    In the case of C-D and F-G, we are playing notes from two different harmonics. D-E and Bb-C are part of the same harmonics.

    Practice seems to help some players. :cool:
     
  5. eisprl

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    in the case of the D-C trill (or C-D) it's very important to keep a very very VERY steady air flow. Other trills are so much easier to play we don't tend to think of how to "use" our air. We blow through the horn and flick our fingers up and down. With the D-C trill, start slowly and gradually get faster and faster. Pay special attention to what your air is doing. Picture that C# in the middle (like what was mentioned). Try not to move your lips from D to C. (After all it is only a whole tone). Keep your lips in one spot and really focus the air through the two notes. Start slow and speed it up. Eventually it won't be a problem to start out quicker.

    Air _________________
    Finger ~~~~~~~~~~~~

    (like that?) lol
     
  6. gdong

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    Stamp #1. Practice that, read the intro about the symbol above the C-D (and successive note pairs). It's apparently the single most important thing to master is the traverse between C-D etc... Check out the Stamp Book, all that is geared towards making C-D easier and with it comes all the other notes.
     
  7. Hornhead

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    Yeah. nice graphic!:roll:
     
  8. Hornhead

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    Stamp #1 :dontknow:the Stamp book?:dontknow:
     
  9. loudog

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    Practice Clarke #4 a lot.
     
  10. rowuk

    rowuk Moderator Staff Member

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    Start slowly. Quarter notes, then eighths, then 16ths............... Arban even used this method which only works if you practice it diligently. Those are tough trills and simply need to have enough time invested. There are no short cuts. I find G to A on top of the staff equally tough!
     

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