C trumpet choices

Discussion in 'Horns' started by wardsd, Feb 2, 2004.

  1. wardsd

    wardsd New Friend

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    Hello.

    I am looking for a reasonably priced C trumpet, and so far have a line on two choices. First is a 80's Bach lacquer with 239 bell and Blackburn 12-350 leadpipe. The second is a kanstul French Besson Silver. The French Besson is $200 cheaper. I have not played either one - they would both be internet purchases, but both would be returnable. Are there any opinions out there between these?

    Steve
     
  2. bigaggietrumpet

    bigaggietrumpet Mezzo Forte User

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    Understand that I have never played a C trumpet, nor a Kanstul. But, knowing the rep and quality of Kanstul, I really think you would be a lot happier with the Kanstul.

    Jack, do you see what your advertising has done to me?
     
  3. Nonsense Eliminator

    Nonsense Eliminator New Friend

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    I guess the first question would be, "What are your other options?"

    I'm not a big fan of buying trumpets you haven't played. People sell horns for a reason, and it's impossible to be certain that the reason isn't "it sucks" without playing the horn. In particular, a 20-year-old horn (Bach or not) is a bit of a crapshoot as far as the condition of the valves and leadpipe. If you're near a major city, and not on an impossibly tight budget, chances are good that you can find a store that has some decent used horns that you can try for yourself.

    Failing that, get the Bach! ;)
     
  4. lonelyangel

    lonelyangel Pianissimo User

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    You could always wait for 20 years and hope to pick up a second hand Eclipse C trumpet! :)

    Seriously though, if they are both returnable why not get both of them - make a comparison between them and keep hold of the one you like best!

    Just a thought. Noel.
     
  5. wardsd

    wardsd New Friend

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    The seller of the Bach is Robb Stewart, so I trust his description at least enough to try it out. He said the valves are in good shape. I expect it to play decent with the Blackburn leadpipe. I will probably get that one and see how it plays.

    Steve
     
  6. dcstep

    dcstep Mezzo Piano User

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    I'd go for the Bach if I had to make a choice without trying.

    Dave
     
  7. trptbenge

    trptbenge Pianissimo User

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    It's too bad you can't play both horns before buying. One of the best C's I ever played was a .462 French besson. However, sight unseen or without some return policy I'd go with a Bach if they are comparable in price.

    Mike
     
  8. Reverend

    Reverend Pianissimo User

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    Wardsd,

    Though not on your list of C trumpets, the ZeuS C has been getting rave reviews!

    If you live anywhere near the Houston, TX area, you are more than welcome to come to my studio and try one out!

    Blessings,
     
  9. davidjohnson

    davidjohnson Piano User

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    robb stewart will not sell something unsatisfactory. i had a 239 for many years. they're good, in fact i prefer them.

    dj
     
  10. gzent

    gzent Fortissimo User

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    What prices are we talking here?

    Last year I bought an older Kanstul made F. Besson Meha C that plays very nice, but I only paid like $550 for it. Suits my needs just fine and I knew I couldn't get a nice Bach, Yamaha, or whatever for anywhere close to that price.

    Greg
     

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