Can't Hit High E

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by Ufachotchin, Jul 26, 2014.

  1. Ufachotchin

    Ufachotchin Pianissimo User

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    I don't know how you interpreted my post, but I was never implying I'm an exception to any rules. I'm an average guy from an average upbringing who happens to enjoy playing trumpet. All I wanted to say was I listened to your advice and it worked out. And now I have to form a new habit using less pressure. I get that. I'm not as naive as other members of my generation.
    Thank you for your time
    Nick DiGiacomo
     
  2. kingtrumpet

    kingtrumpet Utimate User

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    Thank you Nick for being so patient ---- if I may, allow me to say a few words (of my own opinion) about Rowuk. He is actually a fairly knowledgeable trumpet player -- although I do not agree with ALL HIS ADVICE, and I certainly don't always like his "tone" that is conveyed in his responses ----- one thing has always been true with Rowuk, he comes to a point in his responses ---- even if at times it is more concise, and perhaps more "rude" than we are used to

    I say Nick, just try to understand the guy a bit, and don't get caught up in his often abrupt, and occasionally "rude" mannerisms -- aside from that, you can learn from a great many of us here at TM

    have a great day -- and practice, play and be happy!!!
     
  3. rowuk

    rowuk Moderator Staff Member

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    My advice didn't work, it can't in one sitting. That has nothing to do with your heritage, IQ, choice of mouthpiece or anything else. You have spent a lot of time getting to where you are right now - to the point that really cool things are opening their doors for you. That is great. You notice that there are limits. I just explained where the problem most likely is.

    I know of no mechanism that can positively turn around playing in one day. If E is your limit, you are 2 months away from "reliably more" if you have a really good teacher paying attention. DIY probably means a crash somewhere in between. One day of "hitting" something is insignificant in my book.

    My response was more to question your supposed miracle (reality distortion). If in 4 weeks you have a usable F and a wimpy F#, G, an even wimpier Ab and A - EVERY DAY, THEN you took my advice and it worked. Then your chops are not clamping off the upper register. I am not sure that a half tone per month is realistic. That would be a double C in 8 months. I don't think so.
     
  4. bumblebee

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    I was clamped at C above the staff for many years since I thought that it was called "top C" because it was a limit. 20 years. I also used a lot of pressure against my lips when playing towards the top of my range (anything above the staff). I underwent an epiphany of sorts when I read some teaching material which advocated playing with as low face pressure as necessary for the upper notes. Within a short time (few months) I was a happy D player, and about a year later felt happy when I saw an E. F above that became comfortable possibly a year after that. I play every day (except a few times I was sick, or had some other interruption such as a work deadline). G is my current hit and miss note except when I am fresh on a particular combination of my mouthpiece and horns, but I am confident I'll be okay with that by Christmas our so. I don't think I'm unusual in my progression, and though I'm sure some people can develop faster than I do, I would be surprised if anybody was expecting to improve range dramatically in months rather than years.

    Good luck with your playing, enjoy it,
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