Carl Fischer Cornet

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  1. diego

    diego New Friend

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    Hi all.
    I just got this cornet and don't know much about it. It has a Carl Fischer (Boston, Mass) engraving on the bell and nothing more.
    I had never played a cornet before and I just loved it!
    How much do you think is the value of it? I didn't pay for it yet. Is it a good horn? I like it :)
    The serial number is 158727
    Here are some pics:

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  2. tobylou8

    tobylou8 Utimate User

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    It is definitely a stencil. Fischer stopped making/importing horns in 1923. Then they bought York Instruments. This looks pretty modern so I would guess it's made by York. It might be a variation of the Senator by York, but yours has no 3rd slide spit valve! So... Oldlou may be of some assistance
     
  3. diego

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    Hum. Looking at horn-u-copia for York cornets, it seems very similar to this one. But that page says it's a custom model, it doesn't help.
     
  4. oldlou

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    The York Custom cornet was either manufactured by the Carl Fischer sub line of York or Blessing, both companies owned at that time by C.F.. In either case it was a more than decent little horn. If the price is to your liking and financial ability, buy it.


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  5. diego

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    Yes, it looks very similar to the blessing cornets on horn-u-copia. If it follows the blessing serial number, it's a 1968 cornet. Actually it doesn't matter, I like the horn and I'll keep it. Just want to know more about it :)
    I'll trade it on my conn director that I can't play :)
    Two birds with one stone (rabbits here in Brazil :)
    Thank you all!
     
  6. soundphury

    soundphury Pianissimo User

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    Came across this one recently:

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    A little confused about the whole Fischer/York connection in terms of where I can look for serial# dating.
    This serial is P11XXX and looks fairly old. Prior to Fischer's involvement with York?
    Or, were all Fischers stencils and therefore we'll never know...?

    Thoughts?
     
  7. ConnDirectorFan

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    The serial and design both point to a Pan American stencil (Pan Am being a division of Conn, making horns often using older Conn designs)
     
  8. soundphury

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    Thanks, CDF.

    So...if I'm reading the Hornucopia site correctly, it looks like this can be dated as a 1919 horn as that was around the time Conn began using the "P" prefix for these horns.
     
  9. soundphury

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    Anyone care to educate a sax player as to why there appear to be two tuning slide adjustments on this horn?
     
  10. Dale Proctor

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    I'd guess the lower one is the main tuning slide, and the upper one is the one you pull out to play in the key of A.
     

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