The horns in question were basically fine-tuned, tweaked out and tweakable Bach Strads when looked at from a design standpoint. Visually I didn't think they were much to look at - almost like any other Bach Strad. They did play nicely though - whether they could be used for everything.... I used to believe that until you went to a really customized setup, that trumpets were more similar than different. My experience at the NTC last weekend, where I got to play pretty much anything I had been wanting to try (and a few things I'd never even heard of) has given me a new perspective because there were some horns that I would never use for a quintet gig, just as there were other horns that I'd never play in a party band or big band situation. What I didn't realize was just how different two seemingly similar trumpets could sound - even trumpets in the "mainstream" range, and sticker price didn't seem to have much effect on what played well for me and what didn't.