changeing from trp in D to trp in Bb in Sibelius 5 ...

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  1. The Dutch Guy

    The Dutch Guy Piano User

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    Say I have a piece in the program Sibelius 5, and it's written for trumpet in D. I want to play it with my trumpet in Bb, (or piccolo trumpet in Bb or A).
    there must be a way to quickly change the notes in a way that I can play it on those instruments, without having to change the notes for piano / orchestra.

    does anyone know how to do that?
     
  2. wiseone2

    wiseone2 Artitst in Residence Staff Member

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    It's called Transposition. Are you serious about your question?:roll: April First was yesterday.
     
  3. The Dutch Guy

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    yes I am. I have a piece called Concerto en Ré Majeur by telemann. it's written for trumpet in D. I only have a trumpet in Bb and a piccolo in Bb and A.
    how can I rewrite it so I can play it without changing the piano part?
    I have it in Sibelius 5. are there any buttons that change the entire piece in one go, or do I have to change it note by note?
     
  4. tpetplyr

    tpetplyr Pianissimo User

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    Actually, I wonder if this is a technical question.

    Sibelius (Symphony) 5 is written for trumpet in Bb.

    But Sibelius (version) 5 might refer to the notation software, in which there might be a piece that has a D trumpet part that the o/p wants transposed. And he wants to know how to make Sibelius change the key of the trumpet part without altering the rest of the score.

    I don't know the answer, but perhaps I've discovered the question?

    Stuart
     
  5. The Dutch Guy

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    yes, that's it. I was referring to the notation program. I've got a piece for trumpet in D, and want to play it on a trumpet in Bb.

    I've never written or transposed anything, so I have no Idea how to start.
     
  6. bagmangood

    bagmangood Forte User

    Take the part as it is written in C (untransposed),
    I'm assuming you have the parts in the computer already
    highlight the part and then hit shift-t and put in transpose up the necessary interval, (3rd for Bb, 4th for A)
     
  7. Artemisia

    Artemisia Pianissimo User

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    LMFAO!

    Srsly, there must be some kind of "transposition button, but I don't know Sibelius. I once had this weird Octava trial version where you could easily transpose any kind of music, but I actually do any kind of transposition by myself.
     
  8. The Dutch Guy

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    right now I only have the trumpet part in D. it starts on a middle C, and there are no #'s or b's.
    I have put the trumpet in D part in sibelius, and want to make a trumpet in Bb or Piccolo trumpet in Bb or A part from it. (whichever is best playable)

    I don't have the written in C part. how do I make that one for what I have now?
     
  9. bagmangood

    bagmangood Forte User

    Oh, ok, just put in the part into sibelius, (sorry, my directions were wrong from c anyway... my bad)
    and transpose it up a major 3rd for D to Bb trumpet, and up a 4th for D to A trumpet
    really though, if you're playing on piccolo, you'll probably want to play on the A side and just learn to transpose - its an important skill and most of the time you won't have the time to use sibelius. I personally have difficulty read "as written" on piccolos because I always transposed on the fly...
     
  10. The Dutch Guy

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    ok so:
    from D trumpet, starting on middle C with no #'s and b's, it goes to Bb trumpet, starting on E above middle C, with 4 #'s and no b's. is this how it should be?

    and for piccolo in A, did you mean up a major/perfect 4th? (I have to give either 'augmented', 'major / perfect', 'minor / deminished', or 'diatonic')
    in that case it starts on F above the middle C, with no #'s and 1 b. is this how it should be?

    last thing: for piccolo in A, I need to write it down one octave. how do I do that? (still new to the program :D )
     

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