Cheek puffing the upper register

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  1. kingtrumpet

    kingtrumpet Utimate User

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    I can mention Maynard Ferguson who played trombone also and never puffed his cheeks out, James Morrison and many others. The careers of Dizzie and Louie were long enough --- maybe they should have been longer. Sure, cheek puffing can be eliminated by strengthening the embouchure and NOT forcing the high range (strengthening embouchure in lower range by more long tones and more face time on the horn ---BUT who is going to listen to that advice?????
     
  2. gordonfurr1

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    Don't stone me, but my own personal opinion (highly colored by inability) is that maybe we really SHOULDN'T be doing these high squeally notes...I can't really say that I enjoy LISTENING to the sound for the beauty of the sound...mayhaps for the enjoyment of extreme and overtly demonstrated ability...but, really...I neither really WANT to be a high-pitched squealer or very often listen to such. I'd much rather focus on musicality within the comfortable range of the instrument. Just me.
     
  3. tobylou8

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    Hmm, 11:40 and you're not banned. Hmm. ;-)
     
  4. gordonfurr1

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    1:00 AM and I'm still here.
    Proof only that nobody reads what I spew.
     
  5. Tjnaples

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    I understand what you're saying. Also though, I believe when done well (tone/sound) the upper register can add fantastic energy. Two great examples would be Harry Conic Jr.'s band and lead trumpet. The other is listen to the high F at the end of this National Anthem, vibrato and beautiful! An oddity for sure. http://youtu.be/sTfKsSrLh8s

    The upper register does not make someone a better trumpet player in my opinion, rather simply give them more colors to paint with is all. Good tone/sound, proficiency, and the ability to play in tune are the absolute foundations.

     
  6. gordonfurr1

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    Yep. Very nice, and classy touch.
    Mountaintop stratified air.
    Nice place to visit BRIEFLY, but we aren't designed to live there.
     
  7. BigDub

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    Well, that's kind of a no brainer. With the baggy pants you just have to keep them hoisted up.
     
  8. gmonady

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    High pitch doesn't necessary be squalling. If my quintet ever swings by North Carolina way, come check us out. I play very high register and let my notes ring (sometimes even playing them pp). I only squeal when I am with the Big Band on the lead part. Playing in the high range can be very musical and very emotional. I even do so on my flugelhorn. It is a particularly beautiful sound on the flugelhorn.
     
  9. kingtrumpet

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    hey if your stoned -- that's a personal problem you have --------------------------- high squeally notes only come from the ones who can't play them that well -------- GM can play soft, or loud, and high notes as well as musicality -----Maynard Ferguson, James Morrison ---- (could) can do that on both the trumpet and trombone ---- high notes, low notes, musicality --- and great sound ------- BUT -- with EMI and others on TM, my suggestion is to learn how to play the lower registers well, and try NOT to force the upper register (unless your older like me (50), and your running out of time -- then a little cheek puffing on a Double High C on trumpet is tolerated) -- and some puffing on trombone is OK --- whatever those high notes are, I play on that thing
     
  10. gordonfurr1

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    Gmonady, I would love to see you play.
     

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