Classical symphonies - too low?

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by _TrumpeT_, Nov 28, 2006.

  1. _TrumpeT_

    _TrumpeT_ Piano User

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    Manny, I've read that some Classical symphonies written by Mozart involve range that would be part of the pedal tone on our present Bb trumpet. I've also read that these parts double up with timpanis and it's good to play them an octave up but I've also read experiences of people playing them as pedal tones. How would you play these notes? Thank you.
     
  2. Manny Laureano

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    I think they would just sound dumb as pedal tones, frankly. Unless you had some special horn rigged up to give you a solid version of the printed note, such as the low C in the Jupiter Symphony, it would not sound vibrant. Rather, it would be dull.

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  4. rowuk

    rowuk Moderator Staff Member

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    The old deep F trumpets had those notes. They sound consistent with the higher octave. Our modern horns "sacrifice" that octave for securities sake.
     
  5. Albert Castillo

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    That's it!
     
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  6. Rgale

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    The low notes work on the natural trumpets they were written for, although they are low. Baroque trumpets aren't as loud, but should be enough for Mozart.
    But unless you are using them in the orchestra, just play the darn things up an octave. The conductor probably won't notice, and if he does, probably will understand the problem.
     
  7. cornetguy

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    as a second I do that all the time. or just play the whole piece on Bb (Brahms Haydn variations comes to mind immediatly) We did Don Giovanni a few years ago. I played that part on my D trumpet (bach large bore long bell eb/d) and the pedel just fell out of the horn. did the rest on C
     

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