Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by Dreads, Nov 3, 2010.

  1. Dreads

    Dreads New Friend

    Jun 9, 2010
    Iv'e recently stumbled across a problem that iv'e never really had before.

    After about 10 minutes of warming up by doing long tones and some C-G lip slurs I feel ready to play. But no matter how long I prolong this warm up, I can never slur up to that middle C. I think the problem may be that My 'Natural' embochure contains very little upper lip. If I just slip in a little bit more top lip I can slur up to that C with ease, but my tone lacks slightly. I think my tone is pretty nice with my natural embochure and the range of which my tone is nice is from a Low F# up to about G/A. After putting in some more top lip my range changes to from about a Low A up to a top line F but my endurance and tone lack ever so slightly. So the question is, is it a good idea putting in more top lip, or shall I just stick it out with my natural embochure?

    Thanks, And I will be getting a private teacher soon!
  2. Dreads

    Dreads New Friend

    Jun 9, 2010
    Oh and forgot to metion Ive only noticed this in the last few days, before this i could play my full range without noticing anything, all in the best of my tone and with pretty good endurance.
  3. Satchmo Brecker

    Satchmo Brecker Piano User

    Jul 19, 2010
    I'm sure some veterans will chime in. I'm a relative newbie (7 months) and when I first read about embouchre I got the impression from a couple places (can't recall where I read it) that the top lip does most of the work, and the bottom lip basically acts as a support or cushion for the top lip. If that's true then maybe you're limiting yourself by limiting your top lip. Experts please chime in though.
  4. bagmangood

    bagmangood Forte User

    I wouldn't worry about lip percentages, plenty of people play with lots of upper lip, lots play with very little, and everywhere in between.
    How long have you been playing?
    When I first started it was actually several months before I was able to "hit" a middle c, much less play one.
    If there is a problem, it would definitely require an instructor.
    In the meantime, try breathing more and supporting the air more fully as you ascend.
  5. fraserhutch

    fraserhutch Mezzo Piano User

    Jan 23, 2004
    Novato, CA, USA
  6. hup_d_dup

    hup_d_dup Piano User

    May 28, 2009
    Tewksbury, NJ, USA
    Dreads, you should consider that this most likely is a breath support issue, not an embouchure problem. You are right, it is confusing because when you drop a slur, you instantly feel it in your lips, so your attention is focused there. But is is difficult and frustrating to try to fix it where you feel it. The root of the problem is lack of controlled air flow.
  7. kingtrumpet

    kingtrumpet Utimate User

    Sep 20, 2009
    New York State USA
  8. Markie

    Markie Forte User

    Jan 4, 2009
    Clarksburg, WV
    Paralysis from Analysis.
    Stop playing for a couple of days and go back to playing again. Sometimes too much of a good thing (practice) is a bad thing. Give a couple of days for your body to reset itself.
  9. Bob Grier

    Bob Grier Forte User

    May 4, 2007
    Greensboro, NC
    A good teacher can tell you if placement is a problem in about 10 minutes.

Share This Page