Cookie-cutter mouthpieces for beginners?

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  1. Blazing Asian

    Blazing Asian Pianissimo User

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    What is a cookie cutter mouthpiece? Pics? Websites? Please and Thanks!
     
  2. Dale Proctor

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    The term "cookie cutter" has been applied to turn of the century and older (19th century) mouthpieces that have a thin, flat rim and a sharp edge where the inside of the cup meets the rim. They usually have very deep, conical cups, also. I don't know of a site that really discusses them, other than the occasional thread on this site and a few others. Here's a couple pics of mine - the rim's not extremely sharp, but the cup's really deep and conical.

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  3. Vulgano Brother

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    As Dale pointed out, a mouthpiece that works great at home doesn't always work out too well when played with (against) other instruments. In general, players are discouraged from using multiple mouthpieces for the sake of building one consistent embouchure, although many use two radically different mouthpieces for Bb and piccolo or Bb and lead without suffering too much, however, they seem to be the same ones who practice a bunch, too.

    My old cookie-cutter mouthpiece, despite the sharp rim, troubles me less (read "doesn't hurt as much") than a Bach 7c or 5c. If you have the pleasure and privilage of seeking what sounds best to you rather than having a forced level of technique, then follow your heart--why should kids have all the fun?
     
  4. Blazing Asian

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    Is their any current/consistent maker of cookie cutter mouthpieces? (Sorry for all the questions =\
     
  5. rowuk

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    The Schilke 18 I think would qualify as "cookie cutter". It is about the sharpest and flattest "standard" rim that I know of.
     
  6. ccNochops

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    I'm dancing with two different mpc, one is a Bach 3c & the other is a Marcinkowitz (did I spell that right?) with a real shallow cup. I spend most my time now on the 3C in the Arban's book and it has made a huge difference on my playing. I used the cheater the other night after a three week retreat from it & had gained 3 whole notes on top end. While I don't test my high register much anymore, I was really amazed......still love the edginess that cheater pipe produces.....the Getzen doesn't like it, but since I'm the boss :cool:
     
  7. Dale Proctor

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    Most of the time, a 3C is my cheater.;-) The C cup on the 3C mouthpiece is one of the more shallow ones that Bach makes.
     
  8. ccNochops

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    "Most of the time, a 3C is my cheater.".......geez, you'd probally be at home playing your lead pipe compared to my other mpc if a 3C is your cheater:stars: :lol:
     

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