Cornet as a possible big band lead instrument?

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  1. PINCHUNO

    PINCHUNO Piano User

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    Talk about running a marathon in wingtips!
     
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  2. rowuk

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    It is more like a school kid describing something that they do not understand.
     
  3. Ed Lee

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    Kanstul made many Bessons during the Boosey & Hawkes ownership. Too, some were made in India. That is the way it is today, brands we once knew the origin of, may not be true now. The really valuable vintage Bessons were those he made in France before moving his production to England due to a riff with the French government I'm told. Not sayin' these vintage French instruments are the best playin'.
     
  4. SmoothOperator

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    Just the text book opinion here, but I thought traditional flugelhorns were capable of playing louder( and quieter) than trumpets in the lower and middle registers, conical bore like a megaphone, though they have intonation issues above the staff due to the short lead pipe going directly into the valve block.

    I am not sure about the cornet since people tend to play the cornet with massive mouthpieces, though they have a much narrower lead pipe, maybe try getting the equivalent of a lead mouthpiece for the cornet? I have been experimenting with going between a jet-tone studio 7D and a denis wick 4B on the cornet. Makes a huge difference in playing up the registers in terms of ease and tone for me anyway.
     
  5. Dale Proctor

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    I have a couple cornets (giant-bore Conns) that really light up with mouthpieces like a 10-1/2C and smaller. I'd think that they would almost be on an even par with a trumpet as far as projection and tone go, but they are still a little more tiring to play in the upper register than my trumpets with the same size mouthpiece.
     
  6. Trumpet Dreamer

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    The entire trumpet section will double on flugel as the chart may require. The lead player is also playing a flugel. Never seen a flugel leading a section of trumpets, though.
     
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  7. DaTrump

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    I've only see him lead with a flugel in a trumpet song once, and I'm not sure that was purposeful. But in a non-flugel song, the other players, including me, will use cornets. I am VERY unfamiliar with the differences in cylindrical and conical bore and the main differences in cornet, trumpet, and flugel, and all that, which is why I'm straying away from that science. We don't have practice this week, so I can't ask him. Hopefully though someone that does know may shed some light.
     
  8. PINCHUNO

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    Obviously when all trumpets are using flugels in a particular song/section, the lead player is leading the flugels. There is a big difference to leading a section of flugels with a flugel, to trying to lead a section of TRUMPETS with a flugel.
     
  9. JNINWI

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    Great analogy... Cornets have their place, just not in a big band.
     

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