Couesnon Flugelhorn Question.

Discussion in 'Horns' started by acarcido, Dec 17, 2012.

  1. acarcido

    acarcido Forte User

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    I have never been into playing flugelhorns, but recently have the opportunitty to get one in very good condition. The serial number on it 77XXX and I have no idea what they are worth or anything regarding any Couesnon instruments. I was going to sell it for a friend, but another Flugel player told me to buy it. Any ideas regarding quality and playability. Here is a link to the horn in question here:

    acarcido's Album: Couesnon Paris Flugelhorn

    Thanks in advance for your input.
     
  2. Churchman

    Churchman Mezzo Piano User

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    i think you'll get lots of peeps telling you how good they are.
    If you want to play one, you ought to keep it.
     
  3. acarcido

    acarcido Forte User

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    I did play this one for a little bit but like I mentioned before, my experience on them in minimal.
     
  4. DaTrump

    DaTrump Forte User

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    They sound wonderful but sometimes playing it is an intonation nightmare. If I were you, I'd put a trigger on it. Is that the one from TH?
     
  5. acarcido

    acarcido Forte User

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    Yes, you can still buy it. I was considering buying it.
     
  6. DaTrump

    DaTrump Forte User

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    I just thought it seemed a little much, but I'm not sure of Counesnon prices. I picked up that Olds though which is supposedly similar.
     
  7. acarcido

    acarcido Forte User

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    I'm not sure about the Couesnon's either. Seems their history was wiped out.
     
  8. amzi

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    I own and play a Couesnon flugelhorn--and have owned others. After years with other flugelhorns I went back to Couesnon and have never regretted it. Typically intonation isn't as bad as is sometimes claimed and can mostly be alleviated by simply pulling out the 3rd valve slide a quarter of an inch or so then "lipping" notes into pitch. Build quality was always an issue with Couesnon so you may have a few repairs along the way, but it's not going to fall apart in your hands. Valves are also a traditional Couesnon issue--they need to be cleaned and oiled regularly and will look ugly, but they typically work. As a small born horn it needs to be played with finesse and delicacy with a very deep funnel cup mouthpiece (french shank) but you can't beat the sound. You can't play it like a trumpet. If you're looking for a flugelhorn you can play loud and in the upper range look somewhere else. I think the horn you're looking at is a little expensive, but really nice ones do go in that range. Personally I would offer about $400 less than the asking price and see what you can negotiate.
     
  9. X3Lb

    X3Lb Pianissimo User

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    Hi +1

    I play mine as my main flugel and it "sings" on solo passages.. I frequently get longing looks from players on Yammie 631 when it comes to tonal colour. As amzi says, it is a horn that you have to "play" and hear the pitch, that said ,you soon get used to it . Just at the moment I am optimising mouthpiece choice, but it is very tolerant to many mpc choices.

    I have found nothing yet I would change it for.:D
     

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