Denis Wick mps

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by trpteddrumaner12, Jul 2, 2009.

  1. Vulgano Brother

    Vulgano Brother Moderator Staff Member

    Mar 23, 2006
    Parts Unknown
    Like heavy bottom caps, the additional weight on the mouthpiece is supposed to add to the famed slot-lock. Although it may be very real to the player, computer measurements of impedence, Q and other James Bond stuff find no diffference.

    My experience with added weight on the mouthpiece involved a set of custom Curry mouthpieces. Adding a Monster Sleeve did make the sound darker by about 1 Bach cup letter (to me as a player and also to colleagues listening to the with/without combinations) while retaining the upper-register comfort of a shallower cup.

    A player who sounds just fine on their normal weight mouthpiece and is happy has no reason to switch to or even try a heavier weight. They do do something, for some players positive, but I would warn against getting into the "how many grams is ideal?" kind of safari.

    That would lead to madness.
  2. solocornet

    solocornet New Friend

    Jan 11, 2010
    Gosford, Australia
    To get a deeper tone use a deeper mp. I have been using a DW4 in my cornet and found it pretty good through most of the range, especially the bottom end. If you are into hymns and sacred this is ideal.
  3. StoporIlltoot!

    StoporIlltoot! New Friend

    Jan 7, 2010
    Cincinnati, OH
    I've noticed that many mouthpiece manufacturers who offer both a standard and heavyweight in ostensibly the same size will open up the throat slightly on the heavyweight model. I've read their rationale for doing so, but wish they would better disclose this in their literature. This also leads me to believe that their own discoveries regarding the heavy vs. standard weights didn't truly bear out the marketing claims, so they had to to something extra to differentiate the product. The vast majority of buyers are going to (falsely?) attribute any differences to the added mass.

    This is exactly why I used the basic Holton tone intensifier on a standard Bach 3B all throughtout high school despite owning a Megatone of the same designation. I used a throat gauge to measure both mouthpieces, and the Megatone was truly larger. Furthermore, I discovered that additional mass on the shank of the mouthpiece yielded the effect I was looking for. On mouthpieces with added mass surrounding the cup and rim, I always feel like I am working harder. Some people are the exact opposite - that is just my personal preference.
  4. Auburn Tiger

    Auburn Tiger New Friend

    Dec 7, 2013
    Auburn, AL
    In my experience the tone intensifiers don't really do a whole lot. It basically turns your mouthpiece into a megatone. I played a 3c megatone for some time and I noticed that it doesn't do really anything.
  5. barliman2001

    barliman2001 Fortissimo User

    Jul 5, 2010
    Vienna, Austria, Europe
    I've been using the Tone Booster sleeve for a long time - almost since it first came on the market quite a few years back. But I've only used it in conjunction with my pre-1990 DW #2 cornet mouthpiece (biggest and deepest saucepan of a mouthpiece in existence on the market - later #2s were much shallower). In that combination, it works perfectly and controls the tendency to sloppy slotting evinced by the saucepan. Produces a great big volume of the sweetest cornet sound you can imagine coming out of me (I'm no Phil McCann or Alex Melville, though), even though it is hard work. But that's due to the mouthpiece. Controlling that bucket was much harder without the sleeve.

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