Disinfection of the Trumpet following Flu, Colds or other bacteria. ANY SUGGESTIONS ?

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  1. gmonady

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    Re: Disinfection of the Trumpet following Flu, Colds or other bacteria. ANY SUGGESTIO

    Autoclaving kills 100% essentially of all bacteria, and this equipment placed in the autoclave is then used to invasively puncture through a protective surface (skin or mucosal membrane). Alcohol does not totally eliminate bacteria, but keeps colonie counts to an effective minimum that allows our immune system to prevent infection by the few bacteria that remain and without compromising a protective barrier.
     
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    I see this a bit differently. I am a Cystic Fibrosis specialist. When my patients become superinfected, we actually increase respiratory treatments with the vest, or positive pressure breathing devices. I think of my trumpet as a positive pressure breathing device. It keeps PEEP on my terminal airways, keeping them open, less likely to close off and retain bacterial or viral particles. I clear more sputum this way and maintain my airway. I just don't share my mouthpiece or horn with anyone during these times. Actually I NEVER share my mouthpieces, but will pass my horn around when I am in good health.

    No disagreement that Inhaling and exhaling IS compromised, but will be left less compromised if we continue to play. If however you get light headed with playing while ill, you definately have a ventilation problem, and need to stop and start on bronchodilator agents.

    Blood pressure may transently go up when we cough, but will quickly come back down. Blood pressure actually becomes more of a problem when we take over the counter decongestants. That is when I worry as a clinician about my patients' blood pressure when the have a viral illness. And for me, a good blow on the horn is better than a drug induced stupor that is caused by antihistamines. Epinephrine that comes about with a good emotional performance work out is my natural therapeutic high.

    I honestly hate taking a break when I am sick, as my lip muscles that are uneffected by the cold will loose tone if I back off of my routine. So in health or sickness, there he blows!
     
  3. Ed Lee

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    1. Methinks you answered your own question vis not all implements can be sterilized in autoclaves.

    2, Another method is extended exposure to ultra violet light.

    3. However, now many medical implements come in pre-sterilized packs as bio-hazard throwaways after usage.

    In both methods, 1 & 2, there is/was preparatory process of cleaning, and then after usage what to do with the contaminated bio-hazard fluids.

    My docs now take my temperature with a probe in my ear that has a throwaway tip ... gone are the days when a glass thermometer from an alcohol filled jar was used to take temperatures orally.

    While some of these new medical procedures are cost effective, others have come about through compliance with health laws and regulations.

    Now you know why your medical bills are so much. I'm not greedy, I'd just like to be the only worldwide manufacturer of disposable medical gloves.
     
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    Heck no, you pay out of your orifice found by the colonoscope becaues physicians charge you too much for diagnostic work ups, procedures, consultation with their best friends, close relatives in cardiology all of who order testing that is not necessary, and then the labs they send you to sock-it-to-you a second time. Unless of coures you are getting your medical care on Mercury in which no autoclaving is required.

    Dude, a gentleman I know had chest pain and after a guideline recommended histroy, a $60 EKG and minimal lab work I would have sent him home. My colleague on the other hand, consulted a cardiologist in the ER, he was admitted for overnight observation, found all was fine. His bill? $53,000. Ed, you trust doctors WAY too much.
     
  5. robrtx

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    Actually, I was curious why alcohol was not an acceptable method of sterilization in a surgical context, suspecting that it was not 100% effective which the good doctor confirmed with a very concise and simple explanation that even a sailor could understand! :-)

    Thanks Gary
     
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    Good catch there, Ed, but that's my job. I didn't have the chance to edit it yet.........But all the same, thanks for the help.
    Doc, I have some news for you. It's a PM thing. All good.
    Later, my friend. Oh, by the way, I "liked" you answer, good one.
     
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    I heard tell the Doc has been known to use some Alcohol on occasion, sometimes between sets. Just a rumor, not fact. Don't believe everything you read for entertainment purposes........
     
  8. gmonady

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    For medicinal purposes... Only for medicinal purposes!
     
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    I tell my medical students, "Forget CAGEing the patient. Only if they drink more than me, do they've got a problem".
     
  10. Ed Lee

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    And to an extent it is medicinal, even in first response triage ... but I had to purchase another set of shoelaces. I'll let you ponder this response re shoelaces.
     

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