I will try this then -- maybe -- but only because YOU and GM think it is a good idea!!! actually I have 5 Dennis Wick mutes, and another that I can't read the manufacturer -------mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!! mutes come with N+1, don't they? along with 20 mpcs I don't need!!!! --- I only needed the horns ---OK, OK, OK --- I will try to practice with a mute!!!!