Does it sound like a cornet ?

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by Lionelsax, Oct 23, 2013.

  1. Richard Oliver

    Richard Oliver Forte User

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    Stick a ratty old used Wick 4 in there and give it a go. Then find a ratty, used, old, Wick 4B and give it a go.
     
  2. rankamateur

    rankamateur Mezzo Forte User

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    Sounds a lot more mellow than the one before (Summertime) so you're on the right track, in my opinion. It still has a trumpety 'edge' to it to my ears, but that may be because I'm listening with a different cornet sound in mind. I think a lot of it now might just be down to refining the sound through practice.
     
  3. kehaulani

    kehaulani Fortissimo User

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    This thread has disappointed me a bit, although it's been pretty informative in the process. It's obvious that there are some who not only have a myopic idea that there is a true cornet sound, but are even somewhat nationalist about it, as well. The cornet is a tool. The end goal is what determines its sound.

    Eleven pages of this? Really?
     
  4. rankamateur

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    So basically, you're posting about how disappointed you are, rather than offering an opinion on the last video. It's not all about you, dear.
     
  5. Lionelsax

    Lionelsax Mezzo Piano User

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    I don't know how to think, iy's my third mouthpiece, I've got a Bach 6 (good but too small and bright), the one which comes with the cornet, I don't really know the size but both seem to be too small for me.
    The one I use now is a Schilke 16, everything is standard, it's said it's a big mouthpiece, well, I don't think so...
    I saw a comparative chart about mouthpieces, the Wick 4B is not so big.
    Hum... Well I don't want to get a British sound, I have listened to brass bands on the web, it's beautiful but I really think that British brass bands are to emulate instruments from other families, cornets emulate oboe and English horn, euphonium cello... It is not so "brassy".
    Maybe I need a trumpet or a flugelhorn... I don't know... Médéric Collignon has got his concept about cornet... Is it a trumpet, a flugelhorn, maybe a trombone ? Not at all, it's a cornet.
    http://youtu.be/ES0PxtZtvKU
     
  6. rankamateur

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    Merry Ol' England
    I don't like small mouthpieces either, which is one reason I suggested Stork. I'm also puzzled why so many people like DW 4. DW are also uncomfortable and sharp on the lips, I find. I don't know where you could go from here, but at this rate you'll spend more on mouthpieces than you did on the cornet.

    Médéric Collignon - horrible sound! If you want to emulate that, may I suggest a mouthiece in a length of dirty garden hose, or a plastic watering can? Having said that, there was a video posted a couple of weeks ago of someone playing a garden hose and it sounded better than that!
     
  7. Lionelsax

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  8. lipnutz

    lipnutz Pianissimo User

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    If no one had said "cornet" before listening to it, not sure anyone would have. But it is "fat" like most trumpets aren't.
     
  9. lipnutz

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  10. Lionelsax

    Lionelsax Mezzo Piano User

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    You can hear it's a cornet when he plays in the "high" register, it is not so clear, not really accurate.

    Maybe you will think the same thing with this video.
    http://youtu.be/9vGLpPFc0Q0
     

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