Doubling euphonium and trumpet

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  1. Mamba21500

    Mamba21500 Piano User

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    Hi there,

    On Saturday I started playing the euphonium on account of the only grade 5+ euphonium player leaving the band this July. I love the euphonium's tone, so I was delighted by the chance to play it. I've been playing quite a bit over the weekend, and I've taken to it like a cat to my bed (I think that's the expression...), in other words, I have the technical ability to play all the pieces from band, and my tone is coming on wonderfully. Although I realise this is the honeymoon period and advancements will come much more slowly in the future, I'm very happy with how it's going.

    That is, until I picked up my trumpet today... I won't bore with the details, but I sounded similar to Maynard Ferguson (when he first picked up the trumpet)... Anyway, my question is, to anybody with experience in this, how should I lay out my practice.

    Should it be an hour trumpet followed by an hour of euphonium; an hour euphonium followed by an hour trumpet; play them simultaneously (that is, a piece or exercise on one followed by the same on the other); or just try them all and see what works best. I obviously would rather avoid the latter (hence the post) though it's probably the most likely, so that I can save myself a lot of time. Any advice to be had?

    Thanks in advance,
    P.
     
  2. codyb226

    codyb226 Banned

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    Thats easy, get a bass trumpet!

    In reality, I find it hard to go from trombone to trumpet and the only thing to do is play both regularly. I find it easier to go from trumpet to bone, not the other way around.
     
  3. Mamba21500

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    Yeah, that's what I've found as well, the trouble is that at my music centre, I will be playing euphonium then trumpet then euphonium again, so I have to switch both ways...
     
  4. codyb226

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    Your best thing to do is just do that in practice. Spend like 5-10 minutes on each and switch. This could be hard and kill your endurance.
     
  5. Mamba21500

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    I have 9 months until I'm thrown into the world of principal euphoniumism, so even if it kills my endurance, I should be okay :)
     
  6. mrsemman

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    I recently purchased a bass trumpet for myself for Christmas, and love it. At first I would practice the bass trumpet for about a half hour then go on to my cornet. The problem was that while working on the bass trumpet developed my air, and warmed up my chops, it felt like I was buzzing into the end of a straw when I began to work on the cornet. However, I found that if you follow this routine, then it might be necessary to work with the trumpet/cornet mouthpiece for a few minutes. It is doable. I now prefer to work it the other way around. That is, to practice my cornet first and then use the bass trumpet workout as a warm down.
     
  7. Mamba21500

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    I think that will be a good compromise, at least for the moment as I have exams restricting my practice time, and am also going on a music course next month, where I'll be playing the trumpet. After that I'll experiment and see what works for me, thanks for the help.
     
  8. kingtrumpet

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    another TM'er here -- has some good posts on trombone "local357" -- so you can go there and find his posts. I just got an OLDS slide bone this week. Local357 suggested in another post to only do the trombone/baritone (after) the trumpet for the first month or so. AND GO EASY on the bone ---and NOT go wild like you apparently have. So far this week I have played a simple C scale on the trombone ---and limited it to 10 minutes a day ---AFTER TRUMPET practice is over, and at the end of the night -- so I have nearly 22 hours before I pick the trumpet up again ---- I have (SO FAR) no ill effects from the trombone. EVENTUALLY as local357 states in another post -- (a few months) you can start switching easily back and forth, and that is when your trumpet playing and trombone playing will show much improvement --------then you "just work them both in" --------------------but, again, it looks like there is a need to EASE into the doubling ---and Euphonium AFTER cornet ----------------------
     
  9. Bob Grier

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    When I doubled on valve bone I found that at first it felt funny to go trombone to trumpet. Since I was going to need to make fast switches, I practiced going between the two. After a short while I adapted and was able to make the switch without any problems. How you switch is entirely up to you. I would do it say every 10 or 15 minutes or so to get used to the switch. Playing bone helped my trumpet chops.
     
  10. kingtrumpet

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    Yes, that is the reason enough for me to go get a slide bone!!!!!!!!!!!
     

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