Embouchure doesn't feel... right >.<

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by Practice, Nov 26, 2011.

  1. Practice

    Practice New Friend

    Aug 7, 2010
    Ok so for that haven't read my other thread, I got my braces off not too long ago.
    Currently I've been practicing what others have advised me to do but something is just bothering oh so much.
    When slurring a low C up to the C in the staff it feels fine but when i get to the D it feels as if my top lip has to overlap over the bottom lip a little to get it out. I followed this video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q17qIjoZ0-k
    I don't know if my top lip is supposed to overlap the bottom but according to the video its not supposed to. Also it doesn't feel right.
    I have an overbite if it helps.
  2. codyb226

    codyb226 Banned

    Mar 9, 2011
    Florida, US
    If you have overbite then they took off the braces to early, you should have had rubber bands to correct that.
    I would just blow a little harder to get the D, as for your lips just try and fix it your self. It is a bad habit to get into and hard to get out.
  3. kingtrumpet

    kingtrumpet Utimate User

    Sep 20, 2009
    New York State USA
    OK -- I always go with my advice that corrects a multitude of problems. SOFT long tones in the staff -- like 2nd line G, then the A, etc. -- hold as long as you can, take a breath and repeat. Try to feel your lips vibrate.. don't push, don't tense. this will help you feel the position of the lips, and after many days and weeks will help build endurance. I also have had a similiar problem with octave slurs -- but you need to do the slurs very softly ppp --- if you can do them soft then you can use a bit more air to make them louder ----- if you can't do them softly, then your lips need to be strengthened a bit!!!!!!! in my opinion that is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    OH and be patient -- somedays problems won't be corrected overnight --- getting FRUSTRATED will defeat you everytime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  4. Mark_Kindy

    Mark_Kindy Mezzo Forte User

    Jul 11, 2010
    Gainesville, FL

    The video provided is by a fine player, and that method works. However, I don't believe that ALL trumpet players create an embouchure in that method, nor that it is the only correct way. I won't get more into it, because I don't have the experience necessary, and online is not the best way to convey such information.


    I will just clarify to CodyB -- after braces you will still have a slight overbite (the top teeth still overlap the bottom teeth when you bite). But again, it is very slight.

    Are you sure you're using air and not forcing? Sometimes a player will try to compensate by using the lips differently.
    Last edited: Nov 27, 2011
  5. rowuk

    rowuk Moderator Staff Member

    Jun 18, 2006
    Slurs, slurs and more slurs. Braces rearrange the geometry of the face in a serious way. Some are affected and they simply have to invest in a lot of soft playing of easy tunes in the staff, long tones, lipslurs and scales. I would NOT mess with your embouchure. These things tend to go away after a while once the muscles get used to the new geometry. Make sure that you are getting that big relaxed breath - even when playing softly!

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