Experienced cornet Player with new lip problems

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  1. constance

    constance New Friend

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    My name is Connie, I live in Michigan and have been a member of a community concert band for 10 years now. I played cornet in my high school band and missed playing for so many years. My old band teacher started up a group 11 years ago and invited me to join. I had sold my conn cornet (made in 81) so I bought a trumpet to stay playing again. I immensely enjoy playing with our group, which had grown throughout the years. We even have a Facebook page named East China Community Band LOL. I recently went back to playing cornet because my trumpet is heavier and not as balanced as my cornet. It might be a bit of arthritis coming on for playing the trumpet makes my hands hurt horribly. My only problem is that my lip, no matter how much I practice, is not the same. I lose the upper register after about an hour of playing, which is frustrating. I thought about switching to a 1C. I play mostly 1st chair because the other players don't want to lol. This leads to many many frustrations because the other first chair (our soloist) doesn't get enough support from me. What's simply hilarious is that the soloist wants this other young man to move up to help us. WELL, our esteemed founder/one of the directors says, "absolutely not!" This young man is a very gifted musician with only two minor problems. One, he is still in high school and our esteemed director says he is a little snot (cleaned that word up LOL) and two, he is really full of himself. We are going to be performing this Tuesday as a full concert band. Pray for me people because one of the pieces is Tribute to Harry James, and I am playing the other lead part by myself. Well that is enough about me. Play on is what I always say
     
  2. Solar Bell

    Solar Bell Moderator Staff Member

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    Does James (Jim) Smith play in that group?
     
  3. constance

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    He used to but he went back to the St Clair County Community College band. I really admire Jim. He used to work with my grandfather at the Algonac post office LOL. I miss having him in our section.
     
  4. Dr.Mark

    Dr.Mark Mezzo Forte User

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    Hi Connie,
    You stated:
    "My only problem is that I lose the upper register after about an hour of playing"
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    The definition of upper register varies from person to person but when the lip gives out, it's almost always for the same reasons. There's a document that can be found on this site called The Basics Sheet which has helped a lot of people with similar complaints. You can print it out for free. If you do use the sheet, be sure to use a mirror.
    Rome wasn't built in a day and embrochures are not strengthened in one sitting. Give this a try for about a month and see if your problem begins to fade away.
    I hope it helps and good luck!
    Dr.Mark
     
  5. constance

    constance New Friend

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    I will thank you very much.
     
  6. VetPsychWars

    VetPsychWars Fortissimo User

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    I'm a believer in not going so large you can't play it. I was talking with Charlie Melk today about how after so many years my embouchure is still not stable and various things to do and, interestingly, holding your horn differently.

    You might consider not going larger but perhaps going smaller. And, I think you will want to come to our Chicago Trumpet Hang when next it occurs (sometime April 2015). You might find a trumpet you like that doesn't weigh as much as yours... but cornet is fine too.

    Tom
     
  7. constance

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    I am going smaller as in bore for the cornet and smaller mouth piece. I want a Getzen 381 silver cornet.
     
  8. gbshelbymi

    gbshelbymi Mezzo Piano User

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    You mentioned in the other thread that you're currently playing a 3C and are thinking about going to a 1C. That's a larger mouthpiece in diameter, deeper cup, and would take more effort with the upper register and endurance. You should think about a 5C or 7C. Alternatively, think about a Curry cornet mouthpiece. The BBC series produces a nice cornet tone, yet is more efficient and comfortable to play IMO. Good luck!
     
  9. constance

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    I don't understand. I was always taught that if you want to get to the higher notes easier that you go from a 7c to 5c to 3c and so on. I am now throughly confused. Someone please explain. Help!
     
  10. Solar Bell

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    Just the opposite in most cases.

    I bet my Schilke weighs less and is better balanced than your cornet.
     

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