found it Re: Hi how do you increase your 'rank'? Wikipedia describes "Rank" as: 1 Position within a command hierarchy requiring obedience 2 An achieved level of performance or credential 3 Mathematics 4 Others Getting more rank means that you first need to learn to count. Thousands of repetitions to get good at trumpet or Trumpetmaster needs more than your fingers and toes for counting. Second, you need to play better to post better help. Third and lastly, you must become more obedient. That means avoiding comments concerning double G, digging up old, dead threads, you must buy an Olds Ambassador and not trash Bach. What Wiki means by "Others", needs more research. I think it has to do with religion and politics which are forbidden here.............. __________________ Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.