Fingering for Bass trumpet & etc

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  1. BrassBandMajor

    BrassBandMajor Fortissimo User

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    Hello fellow doublers,

    I played in an ensemble recently and learnt that our trombone player will be leaving next year. So, I have decided to start self-teaching myself the bass trumpet or the rotary tenor horn (German one). I hear the fingering is same up to some extent but you have to play the fingering a tone above the reading note? E.g. If you play C, you have to press 1 & 3 (for d on a trumpet?).

    Can someone confirm this?
     
  2. BigDub

    BigDub Utimate User

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    All depends on what Key the instrument is pitched, and other odd factors that I am sure others know about. If it is a Bb pitched instrument, then indeed you would have to transpose concert pitch music up one step. I suppose you can fumble around with a tuner and find out what fingerings do what on your own, but getting the information from a seasoned player would be the way to go, if you ask me.
     
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  3. LaTrompeta

    LaTrompeta Forte User

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    Change the fingering or just transpose?
     
  4. stumac

    stumac Fortissimo User

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    Bass clef trombone music is written for a C instrument, to play on a Bb bass trumpet transpose up a tone, this is a better choice than a tenor horn usually pitched in Eb or F, if in F then transpose down a fourth which is often out of the horns range or up a fifth which will be in the wrong register.

    Regards, Stuart,
     
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  5. BigDub

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    Well, transposing would essentially be changing the fingering, you say tomato, I say tomah-to
     
  6. Peter McNeill

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    Learn the slide Trombone in Bass Clef, and keep the Bass Trumpet for reading the Treble Clef.
    As already said, the Tenor Trombone is written in Concert in Bass Clef, so you need to transpose Bass Clef.

    I chose to keep the Bass Clef for Slide, then use Brass Band Type arrangements in Treble Clef for the Valves instruments.
    Tenor Clef is easy to transpose for Bb valved instruments.

    I played Euph in a Lower Brass Ensemble, but only read Tenor or Treble for the Euph.

    Just my opinion.
     
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