Bill, you are right with your 'train wreck' description! Thank goodness for that 2 bar E (that I play with alternate fingering 1-2). Gives us a chance to "gather it back in" before the ending! The thing is, I don't want to HAVE to gather it back in. I want it (my part anyway) to be RIGHT. I don't use/have Colins but when I am faced with something like this particular run I DO look for alternate fingerings. I find that if I can learn/sort the piece out using alternates, I'm usually not too far away from being able to play it using the "legal" fingering. Unfortunately with the exception of the last note..... *sigh*..... there aren't any. Also, notice that there is a bit of a cresc. in there so that does help things out in the "speaking" area. Thanks for the advice and comisseration, guys. Fortunately we don't "perform" this one for another 4 weeks. I think we'll be happy if we can get the whole band up to 150 or so. (the alto sax and euphoniums are particularly bugged by the same run...sucks to be them).