First note of phrase.....attack?

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  1. crowmadic

    crowmadic Mezzo Piano User

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    What is your method for attacking the first note of a phrase or piece to make it sound good (not sloppy, intentional, achieving what's wanted or needed, etc.)? thanks, crow
     
  2. rowuk

    rowuk Moderator Staff Member

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    Depends on what the note should sound like and if it is part of a double tongue or not.

    TOOH is my #1 way followed by DOOH, KOOH or GOOH. On the natural trumpet I have been known to use RIT, TIR, TON or DOO-DLE.

    A real trumpet player needs a big palette - All of this is worth practicing to optimise the experience.
     
  3. Brekelefuw

    Brekelefuw Fortissimo User

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    Rowuk,
    Does the RIT attack start as a breath attack? I don't understand how to do that one.
     
  4. crowmadic

    crowmadic Mezzo Piano User

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    Rowuk,
    I understand that those different word formations give a different coloration to the note, but I was looking for possible rules, do's and don'ts (I know the final reply is "do what works for you,") but I'm wondering if there's something more to know about the initial attack? Sorry my question sounds like a Hardware Store question: "You know, that thing that's round, has a spike attached to it, and a place where you can insert a wrench that has a weird shape." Who the heck knows what you're talking about? The answer may be as simple as learn good tounging, and you'll play that first note with excellence?

    crow
     
  5. Brekelefuw

    Brekelefuw Fortissimo User

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    I think the answer to this question is to hear what you are going to play and feel it before you start playing. Visualize how it will feel and sound and it will increase the chances of it coming out that way.

    Practicing the piece doesn't hurt either.
     
  6. Vulgano Brother

    Vulgano Brother Moderator Staff Member

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    It may be weird, but sometimes I'll pretend the first note is actually the second--it has cut way down on the number of weird first notes.
     
  7. Bloomin Untidy Musician

    Bloomin Untidy Musician Piano User

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    If i have a couple of bars rest before an entry, i will practise the tongue action without a buzz. I find this particularly helpful for the high pp notes. For me, i have the habit of tensing up, and the tongue striking the wrong area causing a split.
     
  8. RobertSlotte

    RobertSlotte Pianissimo User

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    Sometimes the first note scares me really bad just becouse it is the first. And when that happens i almost always miss it :(
     
  9. crowmadic

    crowmadic Mezzo Piano User

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    This is exactly what i was looking for. Thanks, I'll try each suggestion. I'll be checking for more.......... crow
     
  10. et_mike

    et_mike Mezzo Forte User

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    I really like this idea... lets you "bend" you mind around the "first note jitters". :thumbsup:

    That along with having a clear idea in your head what the note should sound like before playing it!! :cool:
     

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