Flat Flugel

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by chapmand, Sep 4, 2011.

  1. chapmand

    chapmand Piano User

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    I have eight other horns that I can play in tune. Including one Blessing Flugel.
     
  2. veery715

    veery715 Utimate User

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    I had the same problem with them. Got my $ back.
     
  3. chapmand

    chapmand Piano User

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    Really? Do I have your horn?
    Or did they have a very bad production run?
    Are they knowingly doing this?
    When I bought it at a discount they said that the finish was not to spec. I expected that finish refers to the plating, not the final sound that comes out!
     
  4. duanemassey

    duanemassey Piano User

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    Maybe they misspelled "plating", meant to say "playing"? Quality control is not always automatic in any industry.
     
  5. frankmike

    frankmike Piano User

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    than it is flugel problem

    maybe it is actually an A flugel. Extremly rare, but they do exist.
     
  6. chapmand

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    I emailed to company and they replied this morning saying that it was the lead pipe and are aware of the issue. They are sending me a new lead pipe no charge.
    I'm not sure how this will make my horn shorter, but who knows?it may have to do with the taper? Or the... I dunno. :dontknow:
     
  7. veery715

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    When it arrives you can lend it to Prof. Plum who will use it to kill Mr. Black in the conservatory (of all places).

    I tried 2 and both were flat. Poor workmanship too on the trigger on the second one.
     
  8. chenzo

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    Why would they send it out knowing there are issues,
    sounds very dodgy........... if it were me I would be asking for a full refund + shipping.
    Their excuse sound quite lame and would not be surprised if the lead pipe does not fix the issue,and then there will another reason why if you get my drift.
    around and around the merry go round we go.

    Not caring about their customers............not very professional....:thumbdown:
    In the long run this will come back and bite them, especially if you make enough noise about letting them know that
    this not good enough and you will advise the wide brass playing public know about their shoddy service

    cheers
     
  9. nordlandstrompet

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    I have tried a few flugels that played flat and there is only one way that a new leadpipe can fix this issue.
    If you look at the picture, the receiver part is rather long, appr 22mm.
    It is possible to make this part shorter and make the tuning sharper by:

    1: Put it in a lathe and cut down 12mm of the receiver so it can go further in
    2: Make a new leadpipe with a shorter receiver part

    A long shanked mp will also play flatter than a short shanked.

    Another way is to shave down the shank of the mp to obtain the same result,
    (which I did on a *Star* flugel that played very flat with a short shank mp)

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  10. tedh1951

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    Now THAT is a nice looking flugel. Does it play as good as it looks?
     

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