Flugelhorn chat

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by ian simkins, Dec 31, 2008.

  1. ian simkins

    ian simkins New Friend

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    Hi there,i am a newish member based in the UK. I started to play again after a sabbatical of 35 years ! Loving every minute of it. I kick myself everyday for not continuing after i left school ! I own a Coueson Flugel that my farther (proffesional double bass player for 50 years and still gigging at the age of 82 ! ) bought for me from a jazz trumpet player in 1969. I have just had it re plated and overhauled looks pretty good now. I junked the mouthpiece that came with it which was a really small Courtois effort and replaced it with a Bobby Shew Marcinkiewicz piece. This for me made a big difference in terms of sound and playability . I also have aquired a Dennis Wick 4F the other day and wow the sound is really mellow and big ,just great for the brass band i play in. The only down side is the lack of range A above the stave for any length of time can get hard work. I class myself as an intermediate player . I take lessons from a great guy who is a serving member in the Royal Marines Band and who takes lessons from the great Derek Watkins . So my question is given my current abilities can anyone recomend a piece that is somewhere between these two very good mouthpieces . I guess practise makes perfect !

    Happy new year to you all

    Best regards Ian Simkins
     
  2. nordlandstrompet

    nordlandstrompet Forte User

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    Hi, and welcome!

    Since you mention Denis Wick, you should give his 4BFL (or RW4FL) a try.
    I used to use the RW4FL, but changed to 4BFL, which has a more "cornetish" cup.
    This helps me when playing on top of the stave, both on my -38 Couesnon and -06 Conn Vintage 1,
    and it gives the right BB sound.

    I haven't tried "excotic" pieces as Marcinkiewicz and alike yet, but a "ML" size flugel pice
    from Taylor is soon arriving.
     
  3. trumpetnick

    trumpetnick Fortissimo User

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    My opinion is that Brass Band flugels are not meant to go anywhere above high C (above the staff). So A sounds quite reasonable to me. BFL mouthpieces are probably good compromise. You should also try the Warburton screw-on-rim system - changing the backbore in addition to the shalowwer cup may help as well. If you have a friend that has any other mouthpieces that you can try like curry, yamaha, sparx etc it would be helpful to give them a go.

    Ultimately, practice is the best way to go. Different mouthpiece may help your endurance, but range does not change with the mouthpiece.
     
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  4. ian simkins

    ian simkins New Friend

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    Many thanks for the info. Does the Wick 4BFL come in a suitable French/Coueson taper ?

    Best regards, happy new year.

    Ian Simkins .
     
  5. nordlandstrompet

    nordlandstrompet Forte User

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    It has the same shank as the 4FL, so if this fits, the 4BFL will fit too.
     

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