Freaks?

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by Dburn, Sep 5, 2010.

  1. vntgbrslvr

    vntgbrslvr Piano User

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    Define the "natural range" of a trumpet.

    It's impossible to define because it's different for every person. what feels natural to one may seem ridiculous to another. Wayne Bergeron is a perfect example. He sounds completely natural up in the stratosphere. Not strained, or harsh.

    There is nothing wrong with extending your skills to the extreme as long as other areas of skill don't diminish to achieve those results.

    I was always taught it was best to be well rounded in your skill set, instead of a one trick pony. If you can hit a double high C with good tone...That's awesome....just be sure you aren't sacrificing tone or technique to get there.

    I honestly think the high note thing is so common (particularly among young players) because it is a well defined goal. Hit "the" note. Once hit...it typically is celebrated by young peers as an accomplishment....which pushes them to move on to the next note etc...Other more technical skills are less easy to define as having "nailed" than a note.

    Brian
     
  2. turtlejimmy

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    Great post, KingTrumpet! 2000 hours in 21 months ... I just did the math, that's only about 3 hours a day. I guess the ticket is "focused, repetitive and intelligent practice." Good stuff, thanks for that. Makes it seem very doable.

    Btw, does the cape help hit the high notes??? If the shorts are on the outside, and really TIGHT .... does that help? :-? (no doubt these are professional secrets ...)
     
  3. turtlejimmy

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    Whoah Boss, you're WAY off the beam there. MOST Professional musicians have NOT lost the "joy" of playing music ..... At least on my planet. Earth. Is that where you are???

    If you really believe this, give us some examples please.

    turtle

    I offer this EVIDENCE: Louis Armstrong. :cool:
     
  4. kingtrumpet

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    turtlejimmy,
    thanks for quoting me -- I have finally made something of myself -LOL. Yes, pretty much 3 hrs a day. (some days 4.5, some days 1.5) but average 3.
    and of course 2000+ hours doesn't make me Maynard or Wayne Bergeron, or a Doc Severinsen good. But it is a vast change from before.
    perhaps - my age at 45 - to have fun - to have goals - helps to focus the trumpet, and the practices, where at age 20 a 3 hr practice --- well that would have just been silly now ,,- wouldn't it??
     
  5. tobylou8

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    You married? :lol: If you are, what a woman! :thumbsup:
     
  6. kingtrumpet

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    turtlejimmy,
    oh btw -- I am not the cape and undie guy -- so I don't know if that helps or not. deep breaths for many months when playing the trumpet for long tones though ---- that will increase your lung capacity.
     
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  7. kingtrumpet

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    tobylou8,
    unfortunately - I am single (never been married)--had I been married then perhaps I would have been more focused in life --
     
  8. kingtrumpet

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    SO MANY times in these posts- it is mentioned that the MUSIC is not written for anything that high (ie. above High C, or forbid anything near a Double High C).
    So - Why not write your own music?, take a portion of the song and go 8VA (up an octave)? - or do your own improve at your higher range?
    I leave you with this question?
    Do you think Maynard Ferguson, or Doc Severinsen, or the other great players sat around in a forum -- and stated -- OH the music is not written that high -- so why would I need to play there?
    somehow -- I think they "thought" outside the box, outside what is considered NORMAL RANGE.
    but that is just my opinion. so play, be happy with who you are, and make good music at whatever your level --- and if you are hitting a G or A above the staff-- that is your best -- then be happy ---it doesnt' hurt you to want more --- but be happy doing it.
     
  9. turtlejimmy

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    Turtle

    Focused, repetitive and intelligent practice! - KingTrumpet
     
  10. tobylou8

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    I play plenty of music written above the staff, some WAY beyond, and it's church music! Empirical evidence shows the trumpet to be a 7 octave instrument (at least). Yet most are satisfied with low F# to high C. Thats roughly 2.5 octaves and most of that can be played with a static embouchure. The issue it seems to me is it takes work to develop the rest, high and low. Those other 4.5 octaves aint' easy. I can't fathom why someone would ridicule a person's ambition and tenacity for trying to develop the other 4.5 octaves. Keep it up.
     

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