This is meant for Manny and any other pro players that will take the time to respond. I think I play the trumpet rather well. I do a lot of professional jobs and some community stuff. When I compare myself to the other players on a paying job I am at the same level or better. I'm usually not the week guy in the section. I have a stronger lip then all of them anyway. Manny, I have sent you recordings so you know how I play. Well that is a brief synopsis of how I perceive myself. The question is: How can I get a job playing in one of the local symphonies. I do sub here and there with one. The other five or six in the area wont give me the time of day. While these symphonies use Union players there is no contract so it is up to the contractor. There is one that I really tried hard to get into. I sent messages through friends and I sent a resume and lastly I sent a recording of me playing. If I thought somebody listened to the recording I would just say "OK I'm not good enough" but I don't think the contractor lady ever listened to it. Any ideas?