getzen super deluxe trumpet pinky ring

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  1. carlos marxuach

    carlos marxuach Pianissimo User

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    Hello, trumpet loving community! Ihave a question maybe someone out there can answer...I have just purchased Getzen super deluxe trumpet. It has to be one of the most beautiful horns I have had the pleasure to see! however, I am a little confused, the model I own does NOT have the pinky ring. Where there models of this horn wich did not come with a pinky ring? If not, where can I get it?:dontknow:
     
  2. gsmonks

    gsmonks Piano User

    For starters, the term "pinkie ring" is a misnomer. Your pinkie rests on top of the ring. Putting lil' pinkie in the ring is a very bad thing to do because it hampers 3rd finger action.

    I have a number of horns with no pinkie ring (the low G, F, Eb and D variety) and never think about it. Some designs and shapes on other horns I'm not thrilled with and have considered having them removed altogether.

    Some guys will tell you that they're good when it comes to holding onto the horn between playing, but that's purely psychological. You can hold a horn pretty much anyhow, anywhere.

    Lots of guys like the pinkie ring, but it's more an accessory than a necessity.
     
  3. gsmonks

    gsmonks Piano User

    oops- double post
     
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  4. veery715

    veery715 Utimate User

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    Pinky rings are useful for inserting mutes, turning pages, and other activities which call for the left hand. Some folks are not hampered by using them and can play with great facility including the 3rd finger. Others are inclined to use it to pull the horn tighter to the lips for higher pitches - not a great idea.

    Many stage band players who also lead the band will use the left hand to direct and the pinky ring provides a secure hold on the horn for the right hand. You need the pinky somewhere when playing one-handed.

    A pinky ring is not inherently bad. Not all horns were built with them, but one can be added if you want it.

    veery
     
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  6. carlos marxuach

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    I thank you for your insights and I do agree that the pinky ring does get in the way if ones dexterity, however, I would like the horn to be as original as possible. I would appreciate if anyone can tell me where or who can sell me a pinky hook for this model trumpet.
     
  7. beautgrainger147

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    I dont seem to use it much in the rearward direction of use for a two handed hold but it's rather useful if trying to use a plunger or just the left hand for the same affect.
     
  8. TrumpetMD

    TrumpetMD Fortissimo User

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    Hi Carlos.

    I would think that any trumpet repair shop could put a prinky ring on for you. They could order the part from Getzen (Allied Supply?) and solder it on for you. If you don't know of a good repair shop in your area, let us know what state you're in, and maybe someone could suggest one.
     
  9. Gaucho Viejo

    Gaucho Viejo Pianissimo User

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    You can probably get a useable ring about anywhere but you might be aware that the "hook" on that particular horn has some unique character to it (I wish I could provide a visual for you); suffice it to say it looks like it was designed by the guy who came up with "Ruffles" potato chips. It's kind of cool - search around for a pic and see if you don't want to either have a "replica" made (if you insist on having one at all) or track one down from a severely damaged parts horn (as thin as these bells are it seems most are severely damaged).
     
  10. gsmonks

    gsmonks Piano User

    You can find them for cheap on eBay. Just look under Parts & Accessories, in turn under Brass, in turn under Musical Instruments. Anyone who can silver solder (aka braze) can stick one on for you. That's how I buy valve & water key springs and parts for making frankenhorns.

    About horns that come without pinkie rings- I'd be reluctant to install one on a horn with no ring because it may be ring-less for a reason, something to do with design, perhaps.

    Also, saying "it comes in handy when you're . . ." is actually untrue. It only seems that way because that's what you're using to using when you do those things. The truth is that if you were used to playing horns that never had pinkie rings, you'd "instinctively" grab on to something else.

    About half my horns are rotary-valve jobs which are held flat-wise and most often don't come with a pinkie thingie. You get used to the horn as it is.

    Another cheap way to get a pinkie ring is to ask a repairman, specifically one who gets contracted to do school band instruments. These guys always have a parts bin full of useful stuff, plus they're often the best solderers because they're do so much of it.

    It's amazing what wonderful things kids can do to school band instruments. Kid brought a flat alto sax into a repair-guy friend of mine a few years back saying one of his parents had backed over it.

    He didn't have a good explanation for how this occurred with the horn out of its case. The case in question would have survived being driven over by a bus.

    Another kid brought in a tuba bent almost like a boomerang. Claims he was running and wiped out into a stairwell hand-rail.

    Another good source for a pinkie ring is to go to a pawn shop that specialises in jewelry and purchase a cheap but really solid and good-looking ring. Some guys who make, restore and fiddle with horns, buy rings for this purpose, as well as nacre for replacing valve-buttons.
     

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