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  1. kingtrumpet

    kingtrumpet Utimate User

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    my mind is very active and I listen to the radio a lot also --- so maybe we can say it's radio-active ROFL ROFL ROFL ---- the only thing you people don't like about me is my jokes!!!! probably because you weren't quick enough to think of them first ROFL ROFL ROFL
     
  2. FireandAir

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    Simple: brass and drums were military and hunting signaling devices back in the day, monopolized by soldiers -- mostly men. To this day, brass and drums are still associated with men for that reason. I don't think it honestly has a thing to do with lungs. There's too many really awesome women playing at too high a level. I really do think it's because of their long, long, long history as military and hunting devices. Even the modern symphony orchestra comes from the marriage of some duke's entertainment orchestra (string and reeds) with some other duke's military one (brass and timpani).
     
  3. barliman2001

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    Actually, brass instruments for long periods of time were privileges of princes and other potentates that were not easily granted. Trumpets in particular were royal privileges, so there were very few players.
    In addition, within brass, trumpets always were at the top of the hierarchy. That's why cavalry - as the noblest of arms - had trumpets, whereas infantry had bugles and, in some countries, artillery (as the youngest branch of the military) plain signalling horns.
     
  4. kingtrumpet

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    I don't think you can extrapolate to the past -- yeah, sure trumpets were for nobility and for signaling in warfare -- but certainly in most parts of the world for the past hundred years or so that has not been the case -- and to think that drums weren't part of a woman's sphere of interaction --- I don't know why so many men have complained about being hit over the head with a frying pan --- she was trying to DRUM INTO THE HEAD of her man, some intelligent responses, and proper thinking ROFL ROFL ROFL
     
  5. kehaulani

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    If that's the case, then, very few of us great unwashed, should have one in our hands. :-P
     
  6. gmonady

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    I believe the heart of the distribution lies within the band or music director when they first form bands in elementary school. The directors tend to push the clarinets and flutes onto the girls, and the trumpets and tubas onto the boys, and that everyone is were choices are made. So the sexism I believe is not in the player, but rather in the authority. The Man. Big Brother. Mr. Big.
     
  7. Solar Bell

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    I do instrument fitings, and rental programs with many local elementary and middles schools....that is SO correct!!!!!
     
  8. kingtrumpet

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    uhm -- clarinets and flutes are traditionally easier for a woman to hang onto --- at some point, you have notes with no fingers down (at least on the clarinet) -- now men, with bigger hands will have a more difficult time hanging on the instrument
     
  9. tobylou8

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    Trumpet case = 10+ pounds, clarinet case = 2 pounds and flute is less than that!
     
  10. kehaulani

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    If there are no fingers on it, what difference does the size of the hands make? :D
     
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